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Richard - 03 Mar 2004 09:34 GMT
Im looking for a genuine copy of windows 98 se including licence, can anyone
help me out.
Regards Richard.
Alex Harrington - 03 Mar 2004 12:15 GMT
> Im looking for a genuine copy of windows 98 se including licence, can anyone
> help me out.

Wrong newsgroup -> uk.adverts.computer

Also see http://www.itdealers.co.uk

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Alex
Spyke - 03 Mar 2004 14:07 GMT
>> Im looking for a genuine copy of windows 98 se including licence, can
>anyone
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>
>Also see http://www.itdealers.co.uk

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newsgroups asking the same question.
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old git - 03 Mar 2004 21:06 GMT
wotfer when u can buy xp fo £50ish???

> Im looking for a genuine copy of windows 98 se including licence, can anyone
> help me out.
> Regards Richard.
Rich Mackin - 03 Mar 2004 21:41 GMT
> wotfer when u can buy xp fo £50ish???

Could be a question of hardware or software compatability - until my PC
undergoes a major overhaul, I'm stuck with Windows 98 SE (yuck!) as XP flatly
refuses to install. :o(

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MartinS - 03 Mar 2004 22:42 GMT
> "old git" <stua_ward@yahoo.nospam.co.uk> wrote...
>> wotfer when u can buy xp fo £50ish???
>
> Could be a question of hardware or software compatability - until my
> PC undergoes a major overhaul, I'm stuck with Windows 98 SE (yuck!)
> as XP flatly refuses to install. :o(

Oddly, last time I checked, you could still buy 98SE - at a higher price
than XP Home!

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John Turner - 04 Mar 2004 00:49 GMT
> Could be a question of hardware or software compatability - until my PC
> undergoes a major overhaul, I'm stuck with Windows 98 SE (yuck!) as XP flatly
> refuses to install. :o(

Try W2K - more stable than W98SE and not so fussy as XP.

John.
Rich Mackin - 04 Mar 2004 03:56 GMT
> > Could be a question of hardware or software compatability - until my PC
> > undergoes a major overhaul, I'm stuck with Windows 98 SE (yuck!) as XP
> flatly
> > refuses to install. :o(
>
> Try W2K - more stable than W98SE and not so fussy as XP.

I gave Win2K a bash but it couldn't get to grips with me having 384Mb RAM -
the installer died a blue screen death unless I downgraded to 256Mb. Now I'm
up to 512Mb I might give it another try, if I can find the CD.

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John Turner - 04 Mar 2004 10:05 GMT
> I gave Win2K a bash but it couldn't get to grips with me having 384Mb RAM -
> the installer died a blue screen death unless I downgraded to 256Mb. Now I'm
> up to 512Mb I might give it another try, if I can find the CD.

Now that's ironical, because I was told that W98 was never designed to
handle more than 256MB of RAM.  Mine would, but it slowed the machines
reaction time down significantly, so I compromised with 256, which is what
I'm running now with W2K.

I've also heard it suggested that if you're running more than one bank of
SDRAM that both (or all) should be the same size, so that 2 x 64, 2 x 128 or
2 x 256 is acceptable, but odd combinations are to be avoided.

John.
Stu - 04 Mar 2004 10:10 GMT
XP has been (touchwood) fine with 768Mb for me - I'd upgrade it to 1Gb, but
there's little point with the MoBo being somewhat out of date. It's going to
be quite an expensive upgrade when I finally get round to it I think (Or
Football Manager 2005 appears ;-) )

> > I gave Win2K a bash but it couldn't get to grips with me having 384Mb
> RAM -
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>
> John.
old git - 04 Mar 2004 10:48 GMT
> I've also heard it suggested that if you're running more than one bank of
> SDRAM that both (or all) should be the same size, so that 2 x 64, 2 x 128 or
> 2 x 256 is acceptable, but odd combinations are to be avoided.

i don't think that's a ms issue rather hardware, always buy good matching
memory
Rich Mackin - 06 Mar 2004 00:53 GMT
> > I gave Win2K a bash but it couldn't get to grips with me having 384Mb
> RAM -
[quoted text clipped - 6 lines]
> reaction time down significantly, so I compromised with 256, which is what
> I'm running now with W2K.

I gave 2K another bash tonight, using an old spare hard drive to test it - it
seems happy with 512Mb RAM (2 x 256) but there's a catch.... the installer
copies the files, loads up the various hive files, then throws up a stop
error on "saving configuration" The error gives no useful information, just a
few 0x00000000s :-|

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Ian J. - 07 Mar 2004 10:53 GMT
> I gave 2K another bash tonight, using an old spare hard drive to test it - it
> seems happy with 512Mb RAM (2 x 256) but there's a catch.... the installer
> copies the files, loads up the various hive files, then throws up a stop
> error on "saving configuration" The error gives no useful information, just a
> few 0x00000000s :-|

Possibilities:
Memory - corruption to the modules
Overly aggressive timings on the motherboard
Hard drive having corrupt clusters
ISA/PCI cards installed that are not on the HCL (hardware compatibility
list). There maybe drivers for them in W2K, but they won't be guaranteed to
work.

Ian J.
Rich Mackin - 07 Mar 2004 14:58 GMT
> > I gave 2K another bash tonight, using an old spare hard drive to test it -
> it
[quoted text clipped - 6 lines]
> Possibilities:
> Memory - corruption to the modules

As far as I can determine, the memory seems to be fine.

> Overly aggressive timings on the motherboard

I did a test install once before and it worked okay, and I generally leave
board settings well alone.

> Hard drive having corrupt clusters

HDD was fully tested with no troubles.

> ISA/PCI cards installed that are not on the HCL (hardware compatibility
> list). There maybe drivers for them in W2K, but they won't be guaranteed to
> work.

The PCI cards could be an issue - I once did a test install before installing
a network card and it worked okay then - I'll give it a try later on with
that card removed. Thanks for the tip!

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Ian J. - 07 Mar 2004 19:17 GMT
> > ISA/PCI cards installed that are not on the HCL (hardware compatibility
> > list). There maybe drivers for them in W2K, but they won't be guaranteed to
[quoted text clipped - 3 lines]
> a network card and it worked okay then - I'll give it a try later on with
> that card removed. Thanks for the tip!

If the NIC isn't recognised properly by W2K, that can cause trouble. This
can happen particularly with no-name brand cards where W2K tries to guess
the make and installs the wrong driver at installation of the OS.

Ian J.
Rich Mackin - 07 Mar 2004 23:18 GMT
> > > ISA/PCI cards installed that are not on the HCL (hardware compatibility
> > > list). There maybe drivers for them in W2K, but they won't be guaranteed
[quoted text clipped - 9 lines]
> can happen particularly with no-name brand cards where W2K tries to guess
> the make and installs the wrong driver at installation of the OS.

The pre-installer did warn me that the network card was unsupported, though
the driver floppy has W2K drivers - I should be ok removing the NIC,
installing 2K, then refitting the NIC and installing appropriate drivers?

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Ian J. - 04 Mar 2004 23:54 GMT
> > > Could be a question of hardware or software compatability - until my PC
> > > undergoes a major overhaul, I'm stuck with Windows 98 SE (yuck!) as XP
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> Rich Mackin (rich-at-richmackin.co.uk)

Win98SE maximum memory is 512MB - if you have more in your PC, then you have
to change some file settings so that Win98SE thinks it only has 512MB!
Win2000 and WinXP will use whatever you can throw at them.

Ian J.
Ken Parkes - 05 Mar 2004 21:38 GMT
> Win98SE maximum memory is 512MB - if you have more in your PC, then you
> have to change some file settings so that Win98SE thinks it only has
> 512MB! Win2000 and WinXP will use whatever you can throw at them.
>
> Ian J.

Yet another reason to load up Linux :))

Ken.
Ian J. - 07 Mar 2004 10:56 GMT
> > Win98SE maximum memory is 512MB - if you have more in your PC, then you
> > have to change some file settings so that Win98SE thinks it only has
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>
> Ken.

Unfortunately, tho Linux is more geek friendly and allows a great deal of
customisation - way beyond anything MS produces, it is a b****er when it
comes to power users. Geeks learn all about it, basic users only enough to
do the simplest of things. Power users want to be able to adjust the OS in a
straightforward way, not via tonnes of command line entries.

When Linux gets a unified, fully working GUI that can be used to adjust
everything in the OS, I'll consider it again.

Ian J.
old git - 04 Mar 2004 10:46 GMT
as a matter of interest i tried installing win2k on to an old tandon amd k6
machine. it apparently installed fine but some pci devices weren't
recognised (mc said new hardware but wouldn't install even when i fed it
drivers) and usb didn't work, again said new device but wouldn't say what it
was.

ms win2000 hcl doesn't mention tandons so i'll take it back to win 98 and
see what happens.

> > Could be a question of hardware or software compatability - until my PC
> > undergoes a major overhaul, I'm stuck with Windows 98 SE (yuck!) as XP
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>
> John.
Gyle TMD - 05 Mar 2004 07:42 GMT
The RAM limit for Win98 is 512Mb.  Windows 2000 needs a minimum of 128Mb, XP
an ideal minimum of 256Mb.  ( I run a PIII/866 & P4 2.8 with 512Mb RAM for
XP)

To get Win2k working more reliably on older PCs, disable ACPI in the BIOS.

Alan

> as a matter of interest i tried installing win2k on to an old tandon amd k6
> machine. it apparently installed fine but some pci devices weren't
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