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Paul Boyd - 26 May 2004 19:14 GMT

Can anyone tell me if I'm dreaming?

I'm sure that at the Warley show, perhaps a couple of years ago, I saw a
forthcoming model of a Blue Pullman in 4mm scale. I think Fox Transfers may
have had something to do with it, but I'm not sure why! I know it wasn't
the obvious candidate, DC Kits.

Anyone else remember this? If it was there, what happened to it? Failing
that, anyone got a couple of Hornby centre cars for sale at non-collector
prices? (Yeah, right!)

BTW, at a recent show, I was keeping my eyes open for a couple of Lima GWR
railcars to hack about. I saw a few - at £65+. What!!! I only want the
body shells!

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Brian Williams - 26 May 2004 21:12 GMT

> Can anyone tell me if I'm dreaming?
>
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> railcars to hack about. I saw a few - at £65+. What!!! I only want the
> body shells!

I believe it was Graham Shaw from Shawplan who was behind this. Haven't
heard anything about them for a while.
Brian

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Andrew - 27 May 2004 13:16 GMT

>Can anyone tell me if I'm dreaming?
>
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>railcars to hack about. I saw a few - at £65+. What!!! I only want the
>body shells!

Project has seemingly died a death due to very little commercial
support. Shawplan have moulds for the Schlierin bogies and are trying
to produce moulds for the coach side using Kitmaster panels as
templates but they are a long way from producing kits. I had a long
chat with them at the Bristol MRE a few weeks back and begged them to
come up with something. If they can produce a kit that sells for less
than £30 each then they will sell loads of them considering the
ludicrous prices they fetch on Ebay.

SP are out of stock of etched window panels for the Westerns at the
moment and the lead time for Chris Leigh bogies is upwards of 2-3
months!

I have 3 cut and shut Triang coaches (two ends of a trailer car glued
together) ready to receive new window overlays and a repaint. I have
done the window overlays for the 2nd class parlour car out of
plasticard. I have recently acquired a full length scale marshalling
diagram of the western units on E-Bay (all 50 ft of it) and I have
used that to produce the window overlay but they don't look quite
right yet. Tricky job is scaling down the coach length to fit the
Triang chassis and then distributing the windows along the length so
that they look right.

I have 1 8 car set and 1 6 car set in Grey/Blue and 4 trailer cars
that I may break to produce a couple of 2nd class parlours to up the 6
car set to an 8 car Western set.

PS Go to the BluePullman group at Yahoogroups for more info.

HTH Andrew

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Stuart Pearce - 30 May 2004 10:04 GMT

Hi all,

About 10 years ago, before Shawplan or Southern Pride brought out their
etched window panels, I had the same idea myself and had panels for an 8-car
Western set etched to order by Bill Bedford. Last time I saw his list they
were still shown as available. I've got all the Triang coaches I need now
and this will be the next project on the workbench - I'm just short of a
couple of bogie sides. I'll post some pictures somewhere suitable when it's
done.

(Incidentally, around the same time, I picked up 4 trailer cars in The
Signal Box, Rochester for £3 each, and later on the same day a complete but
scruffy 5-car set at the Maidstone Toy & Collectors' Fair for £20. How
times change. The cars from Rochester had the window inserts missing, which
was what first gave me the idea of getting some replacements etched.)

Stuart

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Paul Boyd - 30 May 2004 11:28 GMT

Thanks to all who have responded to my request for info:

> Western set etched to order by Bill Bedford. Last time I saw his list they
> were still shown as available.

I have just downloaded his list dated 8th Jan 04, and they aren't shown in
there, but that is still an avenue of enquiry.

> (Incidentally, around the same time, I picked up 4 trailer cars in The
> Signal Box, Rochester for £3 each, and later on the same day a complete but
> scruffy 5-car set at the Maidstone Toy & Collectors' Fair for £20.

And I thought the two trailers I go for £15 each a couple of years was a
bargain! They were poking out of one of the boxes hiding under a trade
stand, good condition, scale wheels fitted (even though they were OO) and
decorum went out the window! The going rate at the time seemed to be £25,
and last month I saw some for £35. Each.

> The cars from Rochester had the window inserts missing, which
> was what first gave me the idea of getting some replacements etched

I had a cheap pair of driving cars, but one had a missing window insert. At
another trade stand I saw a cracked body shell for £1, but it had good
window inserts. Another bargain!

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Dave Garrett - 30 May 2004 21:43 GMT

Hello,

I have fond memories of the Blue Pullman running on the midland route and
noticed this in the June British
Railway Modelling mag;
Auction report (page 78)
Blue Pullman boxed set RS52 complete with instructions & in mint condition.
sold for £90.
I didn't think that was too bad considering what you can pay nowadays for a
single loco.

Dave

> Thanks to all who have responded to my request for info:
>
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> another trade stand I saw a cracked body shell for £1, but it had good
> window inserts. Another bargain!

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KimPateman - 02 Jun 2004 19:52 GMT

Dave Garrett wrote:-

>I have fond memories of the Blue Pullman running on the midland route and
>noticed this in the June British
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>I didn't think that was too bad considering what you can pay nowadays for a
>single loco.

Visit a general auction rather than a specialist auction and no one seems to
know the value of model railway stuff. Seen stuff knocked down for 50% or 25%
of what it was really worth.

(kim)

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John Turner - 03 Jun 2004 00:19 GMT

> Visit a general auction rather than a specialist auction and no one seems to
> know the value of model railway stuff. Seen stuff knocked down for 50% or 25%
> of what it was really worth.

And conversley I've seen stuff sell at local general auctions which could
have been bought more cheaply in my shop.

John.

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