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Model Forum / General / Railroads / June 2004Railfest 2004 - pictures from Sunday now on line
Is it just me but is it all a bit sad ? half of the images are dull , poorly lit and poorly composed . the gallery is little more than trainspotting online Sorry >Is it just me but is it all a bit sad ? It's you. HTH. HAND.  SignatureAndy Breen ~ Speaking for myself, not the University of Wales "your suggestion rates at four monkeys for six weeks" (Peter D. Rieden) > Is it just me but is it all a bit sad ? > > half of the images are dull , poorly lit and poorly composed . the > gallery is little more than trainspotting online Perhaps you could do a better job yourself. SignatureMartin S. "Martin Creese" <Martin.creese@btinternet.com> wrote in message ... > Is it just me but is it all a bit sad ? It's you. > half of the images are dull , poorly lit and poorly composed . the > gallery is little more than trainspotting online Adam Warr has taken the time and trouble to share his photos of the event with us, and that is as close as I am going to get to being there. I look forward to seeing your gallery, Martin. SignaturePaul Boyd http://www.pbhome.plus.com/ http://www.ecsl-ltd.com/ > Is it just me but is it all a bit sad ? > > half of the images are dull , poorly lit and poorly composed . the > gallery is little more than trainspotting online > > Sorry Only half? My photography must be improving! Seriously, though - just try to get a well composed shot in the available space with 20,000 folk around... "Little more than trainspotting on line" - erm..that's the whole idea of the gallery. I think you are missing the point, Martin. Anyway got to get my Anorak from the dry-cleaners, polish my NHS specs and dust off my ABC for the next jaunt!! Adam > Anyway got to get my Anorak from the dry-cleaners, polish my NHS specs and > dust off my ABC for the next jaunt!! Nice one Adam! ;-) John. > > Anyway got to get my Anorak from the dry-cleaners, polish my NHS specs and > > dust off my ABC for the next jaunt!! > > Nice one Adam! ;-) ...........yeah, but he can't be a REAL trainspotter - all the ones I ever knew never washed anything!! ;-)) have fun, Gavin ps went to Railfest myself today - p****d down most of the day but it was still great fun if only because of all the smoke and the smell of soot etc. They were good enough for me!!!! Anyone seen any video of railfest posted? Even if it is shaky, the audios not in stereo, and the lighting isn't just right? Rob > > Is it just me but is it all a bit sad ? > > [quoted text clipped - 13 lines] > > Adam [snip] > Anyway got to get my Anorak from the dry-cleaners, polish my NHS specs and > dust off my ABC for the next jaunt!! And don't forget to wash your thermos out. SignatureGraeme Wall This address is not read, substitute trains for rail. Transport Miscellany at <http://www.greywall.demon.co.uk/rail/index.html> > [snip] >> >> Anyway got to get my Anorak from the dry-cleaners, polish my NHS >> specs and dust off my ABC for the next jaunt!! > > And don't forget to wash your thermos out. Wash it out? Never! SignatureMartin S. > Is it just me but is it all a bit sad ? > > half of the images are dull , poorly lit and poorly composed . the gallery > is little more than trainspotting online > > Sorry At the risk of being a grumpy old sod, bring back black and white film and manual cameras. Point and click cameras and point and click computer processing seems guaranteed to produce locos with empty black spaces under the footplate. I don't see why I have to be polite just because someone wants to display their wares - they are offered for sale. First lesson is to find out how your camera weights the light level across the viewfinder. Second lesson is to see what happens when you override the auto-expose. Heads for the air-raid shelter. Ken. > > Is it just me but is it all a bit sad ? > > [quoted text clipped - 14 lines] > > Ken. We've been here before Ken http://makeashorterlink.com/?L1B911378 or http://groups.google.co.uk/groups?hl=en&lr=&ie=UTF-8&threadm=403f8360_3%40mk-nnt p-1.news.uk.worldonline.com&rnum=1&prev=/groups%3Fq%3Dfotopic%2Bgroup:uk.railway %26hl%3Den%26lr%3D%26ie%3DUTF-8%26group%3Duk.railway%26selm%3D403f8360_3%2540mk- nntp-1.news.uk.worldonline.com%26rnum%3D1 People are just used to lower standards nowadays. Some of my online pictures ain't prize winners but I do keep the really bad ones to my self. BTW have not looked at the fotopic gallery to which this thread refers, I'm avoiding railfest pics because they are all pretty much the same, so my comments do not necessarily relate to those pictures. Marcus Dawson -- Personal Site - www.rail-net.co.uk Part of the - www.trainspots.co.uk network Over 200 Locations and still rising. > We've been here before Ken > [quoted text clipped - 11 lines] > > Marcus Dawson Thanks for that url Marcus, it's an interesting read. Ken. > At the risk of being a grumpy old sod, bring back black and white film > and manual cameras. Point and click cameras and point and click computer [quoted text clipped - 3 lines] > to find out how your camera weights the light level across the viewfinder. > Second lesson is to see what happens when you override the auto-expose. Have you got some pictures online, so we can see how it should be done? Regards, Stuart. >> At the risk of being a grumpy old sod, bring back black and white film >> and manual cameras......... [quoted text clipped - 4 lines] > > Stuart. No Stuart, don't have a scanner, don't use digitals, and don't take pictures of railway objects very often. And looking at my pics would not shew you how to do it, only practice after reading how to overcome problems would do that. Ken. >> Is it just me but is it all a bit sad ? >> [quoted text clipped - 13 lines] > > Heads for the air-raid shelter. Many present-day digital cameras do not have an exposure (or focus) override. One is expected to adjust the contrast, etc. in post- processing. I have a digital, but I use the trusty semi-automatic 35mm when I want to control the focusing and exposure. SignatureMartin S. > Many present-day digital cameras do not have an exposure (or focus) > override. One is expected to adjust the contrast, etc. in post- > processing. I have a digital, but I use the trusty semi-automatic 35mm > when I want to control the focusing and exposure. I thought total-auto digitals were for don't know don't care holiday snaps and birthday parties. At the moment a goodish digital costs around £500 and I've yet to see a good print from a printer under £200 even at 10x8. Using post-processing seems to be beyond those who are not prepared to use a camera skillfully, which is no surprise of course. While I have a battery of Pentax stuff and there are labs to process my transparencies and print the rare GOOD one, I can't see any point in going down the road of having to do the boring stuff myself. But perhaps having had to spend many sunny days in my employer's dark room colours my view. Don't throw that 35mm away, it separates the men from the boys :) Ken. >> Many present-day digital cameras do not have an exposure (or focus) >> override. One is expected to adjust the contrast, etc. in post- [quoted text clipped - 12 lines] > employer's dark room colours my view. Don't throw that 35mm away, it > separates the men from the boys :) So what about 2 1/4 square? >>> Many present-day digital cameras do not have an exposure (or focus) >>> override. One is expected to adjust the contrast, etc. in post- [quoted text clipped - 14 lines] >> > So what about 2 1/4 square? You're talking about GIANTS, out of my league. Ken. > I don't see why I have to be polite just because someone > wants to display their wares - they are offered for sale. To the benefit of fotopic, not the photographer, I believe. SignatureMartin S. > I don't see why I have to be polite just because someone > wants to display their wares Because it makes you sound like an ignorant tw*t if you're not polite, but then if the cap fits? John. >> I don't see why I have to be polite just because someone >> wants to display their wares [quoted text clipped - 3 lines] > > John. He was polite, just not complimentary. Or are we only allowed to say "nice" things about other people and what they try tto sell us? > He was polite, just not complimentary. Or are we only allowed to say "nice" > things about other people and what they try tto sell us? You know what I meant! There are pleasant ways of saying things and just downright insensitive ones. John. >> He was polite, just not complimentary. Or are we only allowed to say >> "nice" things about other people and what they try tto sell us? [quoted text clipped - 3 lines] > > John. He made a technical appraisal of the shots and described them in appropriate terms. The only bit one could quibble about is the "trainspotting online" comment but that is nothing more than a personal opinion. In a different context, a number of people make disparaging comments about Voyagers. Well, they are snumerous people's work, should nothing be said about them? > In a different context, a number of people make disparaging comments about > Voyagers. Well, they are snumerous people's work, should nothing be said > about them? To get back on topic I think the Bachmann Voyager is very nice. :-) John. >> In a different context, a number of people make disparaging comments >> about Voyagers. Well, they are snumerous people's work, should [quoted text clipped - 3 lines] > > John. LOL > He made a technical appraisal of the shots and described them in appropriate > terms. I thought the technical appraisal was a bit silly in this context (although people can say what they like, of course!) - these were a selection of photos, presumably taken between clambering in loco cabs, riding on miniature railways and buying GBRf mugs, etc., presumably intended to give non-attendees a flavour of what was to be seen at Railfest. The layout of the show made photography difficult - there was little room between the exhibits, and lots of people around (which is quite as it should be; as many locos to see as possible, and I was pleased to see hands-on access available to so many of them). If a selection of lineside pictures had been presented, a technical appraisal might have gone down better. Regards, Stuart. >> He made a technical appraisal of the shots and described them in >> appropriate terms. [quoted text clipped - 12 lines] > If a selection of lineside pictures had been presented, a technical > appraisal might have gone down better. It was my impression that the comments stemmed from the fact that the shots were being offered for sale rather than simply for people to look at and, as you say, gain a flavour of the exhibits. Of course, no one is forced to actually buy any of them. > It was my impression that the comments stemmed from the fact that the shots > were being offered for sale rather than simply for people to look at and, as > you say, gain a flavour of the exhibits. Of course, no one is forced to > actually buy any of them. That's how Fotopic is funded. You get free web space in return for Fotopic being able to sell prints of your images. John. > That's how Fotopic is funded. You get free web space in return for Fotopic > being able to sell prints of your images. Can I re-phrase that and say *I believe that's how Fotopic is funded*. John. >> That's how Fotopic is funded. You get free web space in return for >> Fotopic being able to sell prints of your images. > >Can I re-phrase that and say *I believe that's how Fotopic is funded*. Thats one way they get money, the main way I believe is from the premium subscribers who pay for additional services - fiver a month, or less if you pay for several at once. http://fotopic.net/about/products/premium.php The 'Buy Prints' facility is optional, up to the gallery owner whether they allow prints to be sold or not. Cheers, Ben http://bjc.fotopic.net/ Nearly fixed! just two collections to reinstate... > > It was my impression that the comments stemmed from the fact that the > shots [quoted text clipped - 5 lines] > That's how Fotopic is funded. You get free web space in return for Fotopic > being able to sell prints of your images. So what? If someone wants to put some shots online for other to look at there's plenty of free web space available. > That's how Fotopic is funded. You get free web space in return for Fotopic > being able to sell prints of your images. That's not actually the case - it's more of a convenience thing: you can turn off "order prints" even if you're a free user. If you're a Premium user of course you can sign up to Printshop and set your own prices, and we give you a chunk of that... jx SignatureJoel Rowbottom - joel <at> fotopic <dot> net - Head Guy, Fotopic.Net Get your free photo gallery at http://fotopic.net - over 3.3M photos! 250Mb photo-space, full admin interface, no popups, prints & gifts, WAP album, custom styles, revenue share, ratings, and loads more! > >> I don't see why I have to be polite just because someone > >> wants to display their wares [quoted text clipped - 6 lines] > He was polite, just not complimentary. Or are we only allowed to say "nice" > things about other people and what they try tto sell us? Even if it is the photographer and not the site trying to sell them to you, if you don't think them to be of good enough quality to meet what ever standards you have then you just don't buy them do you. Thats not rocket science. You get a full preview of the image, so you know what you will get in return. >> I don't see why I have to be polite just because someone wants to >> display their wares [quoted text clipped - 3 lines] > > John. Well John, I'm prepared to be sufficiently impolite to suggest you buy yourself a dictionary, or a thesaurus. Ken. >>> I don't see why I have to be polite just because someone wants to >>> display their wares [quoted text clipped - 4 lines] > Well John, I'm prepared to be sufficiently impolite to suggest you > buy yourself a dictionary, or a thesaurus. Buy? There are hundreds of them on-line! SignatureMartin S. > Is it just me but is it all a bit sad ? > > half of the images are dull , poorly lit and poorly composed . the > gallery is little more than trainspotting online Where's your online portfolio then? -- *** http://www.railwayscene.co.uk/ *** Updating regularly throughout 2004 Rich Mackin (rich-at-richmackin-co-uk) |
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