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Dirk Belcher - 09 Jun 2004 20:25 GMT
Well, considering that this isn't supposed to be a binaries newsgroup, I can
see a lovely picture of a 9F in the above thread titled "FS: British Railway
Decapod".

What's going on, why does this happen and is it something I should worry
about?

Thanks,

db.
John Sullivan - 09 Jun 2004 20:58 GMT
>Well, considering that this isn't supposed to be a binaries newsgroup, I can
>see a lovely picture of a 9F in the above thread titled "FS: British Railway
>Decapod".

I don't have the thread at all. I've got a limit on the size of news
articles I will accept, which automatically rejects most binaries. After
all, the maximum size for a text message is somewhere around 5K, and
binaries can be significantly bigger than that.

>What's going on, why does this happen and is it something I should worry
>about?

It happens because people post binaries. The ban on binaries is in the
charter, but there is nothing to enforce the charter except for the way
you configure your newsreader, or some ISPs who can get very shirty with
their customers if someone complains.

No, you shouldn't worry about it unless you're on a slow dial-up line
and paying a fortune for your net access. If you're on broadband you
should be OK.

>Thanks,
>
>db.

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MartinS - 09 Jun 2004 21:01 GMT
> Well, considering that this isn't supposed to be a binaries
> newsgroup, I can see a lovely picture of a 9F in the above thread
> titled "FS: British Railway Decapod".
>
> What's going on, why does this happen and is it something I should
> worry about?

Depends whether your ISP/news server filters them out.
If you're worried, ask them.

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Paul Boyd - 09 Jun 2004 21:26 GMT
> Well, considering that this isn't supposed to be a binaries newsgroup, I can
> see a lovely picture of a 9F in the above thread titled "FS: British Railway
> Decapod".

Er..... what thread entitled "FS: British Railway Decapod".

> What's going on, why does this happen and is it something I should worry
> about?

Ditto!!!!

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Philip Meech - 09 Jun 2004 21:28 GMT
What is a binaries newsgroup? Am I not allowed to notify you of a 3.25
Gauge Fling Dutchman for sale.

>Well, considering that this isn't supposed to be a binaries newsgroup, I can
>see a lovely picture of a 9F in the above thread titled "FS: British Railway
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Chris Wilson - 09 Jun 2004 21:38 GMT
> What is a binaries newsgroup? Am I not allowed to notify you of a 3.25
...

> >What's going on, why does this happen and is it something I should worry
> >about?

Most good newservers will filter out binary attachments to a non-binary
newsgroup, considered very bad manners to post such items ... fills up
servers with junk pushing out other posts, folks on dial-up connections get
screwed.

Bit like posting in html really.

If you want to show a pic ... upload it to some webspace then post a short
descriptive *text* post to the relevant newsgroup with a link to the
uploaded pic(s).

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Paul Boyd - 09 Jun 2004 22:32 GMT
> Most good newservers will filter out binary attachments to a non-binary
> newsgroup, considered very bad manners to post such items ... fills up
> servers with junk pushing out other posts, folks on dial-up connections get
> screwed.

Ah - that'll be why I didn't see the original posting referred to - PlusNet
have a good news-server.

Assuming Philip Meech was the original culprit - no, you're not allowed to
post binaries, but you are allowed to advertise items for private sale.  See
the newsgroup charter posted to this group periodically, and available from
http://www.ukrecmodelsrail.co.uk/

...and what is a Fling Dutchman anyway????
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John Sullivan - 10 Jun 2004 07:42 GMT
>> Most good newservers will filter out binary attachments to a non-binary
>> newsgroup, considered very bad manners to post such items ... fills up
[quoted text clipped - 11 lines]
>
>...and what is a Fling Dutchman anyway????

When I was at school, "Fling" was a popular brand of carbonated soft
drink.
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Paul Boyd - 10 Jun 2004 17:30 GMT
> When I was at school, "Fling" was a popular brand of carbonated soft
> drink.

I'm afraid I'll have to take your word for that.  I do remember Cresta
though - it's frothy, man!

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MartinS - 10 Jun 2004 21:07 GMT
>> When I was at school, "Fling" was a popular brand of carbonated soft
>> drink.
>
> I'm afraid I'll have to take your word for that.  I do remember Cresta
> though - it's frothy, man!

Wasn't that a Vauxhall?

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rosecott - 11 Jun 2004 22:34 GMT
>>> When I was at school, "Fling" was a popular brand of carbonated soft
>>> drink.
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>
> Wasn't that a Vauxhall?

Ice cream soda was like a Vauxhall,  blow hard and the top flew off.

Ken.
MartinS - 10 Jun 2004 21:07 GMT
> Paul Boyd <nobody@home.com> writes
>>
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> When I was at school, "Fling" was a popular brand of carbonated soft
> drink.

Whatever happened to Dandelion & Burdock and Irn-Bru?

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David Jackson - 10 Jun 2004 21:24 GMT
The message <40c8beaa$0$45871$892e0abb@auth.newsreader.octanews.com>
from MartinS <me@my.place> contains these words:

> Whatever happened to Dandelion & Burdock and Irn-Bru?

Tizer, anyone?

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MartinS - 10 Jun 2004 21:58 GMT
> The message <40c8beaa$0$45871$892e0abb@auth.newsreader.octanews.com>
> from MartinS <me@my.place> contains these words:
>
>> Whatever happened to Dandelion & Burdock and Irn-Bru?
>
> Tizer, anyone?

The Appetizer!  Forgot that one!

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Brian Watson - 10 Jun 2004 21:35 GMT
> Whatever happened to Dandelion & Burdock and Irn-Bru?

Both are still available, but you have to put a bit of effort into finding
Dandelion and Burdock.

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Dave Potter - 11 Jun 2004 08:20 GMT
The only effort I put into finding D&B recently was going to the Demu
Showcase - where I enjoyed a nice can of the same from the snack bar :)
Colin Reeves - 11 Jun 2004 23:02 GMT
The message <cabf95$804$2$8302bc10@news.demon.co.uk>
from "Brian Watson" <brian@spheroid.demon.co.uk> contains these words:

> Both are still available, but you have to put a bit of effort into finding
> Dandelion and Burdock.

Both in Morrisons!

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Mike K - 12 Jun 2004 21:07 GMT
> The message <cabf95$804$2$8302bc10@news.demon.co.uk>
> from "Brian Watson" <brian@spheroid.demon.co.uk> contains these words:
[quoted text clipped - 3 lines]
>
> Both in Morrisons!

And Kwiksave, I've just finished off the bottle of D&B!

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Rich Mackin - 10 Jun 2004 23:43 GMT
> > Paul Boyd <nobody@home.com> writes
> >>
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>
> Whatever happened to Dandelion & Burdock and Irn-Bru?

Can still get it at Safeway, but it's not as good as the old Lowcocks stuff I
used to get in glass bottles when I was a kid. Morrissons do it too, but it's
a bit like trying to drink treacle, and it carries a high risk of giving the
drinker diabetes after one glass, there's that much sugar in it. :o(

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Graham - 11 Jun 2004 00:05 GMT
> Can still get it at Safeway, but it's not as good as the old Lowcocks stuff I
> used to get in glass bottles when I was a kid. Morrissons do it too, but it's
> a bit like trying to drink treacle, and it carries a high risk of giving the
> drinker diabetes after one glass, there's that much sugar in it. :o(

Safeway IS Morrison's and you can get em sugar free

anyway if you specifically want to post pictures

try
alt.binaries.pictures.rail

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MartinS - 11 Jun 2004 01:19 GMT
>> > Paul Boyd <nobody@home.com> writes
>> >>
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> and it carries a high risk of giving the drinker diabetes after one
> glass, there's that much sugar in it. :o(

Ack chew welly we can get them in Canada made under licence from Barr's,
but a teeny ~300ml bottle costs more than a 2L bottle of private-brand
pop. Our local supermarket is currently selling generic 2L pop at ~26p.

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Arthur Figgis - 11 Jun 2004 00:07 GMT
>Whatever happened to Dandelion & Burdock

Alive and well. Amazingly it appeared in my local Sainsbury's (near
Croydon) a few months ago, and they now have it regularly. Beats cola!

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MartinS - 11 Jun 2004 01:23 GMT
>>Whatever happened to Dandelion & Burdock
>
> Alive and well. Amazingly it appeared in my local Sainsbury's (near
> Croydon) a few months ago, and they now have it regularly. Beats cola!

I believe it's still very popular Oop North, and maybe in Scotland.
Barr's used to claim Irn-Bru was made from girrderrs, but I guess they
can't any more under the Trade Descriptions Act 1968. Nor can Guinness
claim to be good for you (even if it is).

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Jim Guthrie - 11 Jun 2004 13:15 GMT
>Whatever happened to Dandelion & Burdock and Irn-Bru?

Plenty of Irn-Bru around - I buy a bottle regularly from many outlets.
Apparently it outsells Coca Cola in Scotland - the only country in the
world where Coke is outsold.

Jim.
rosecott - 11 Jun 2004 22:30 GMT
>>Whatever happened to Dandelion & Burdock and Irn-Bru?
>
[quoted text clipped - 3 lines]
>
> Jim.

Irn Bru and battered Mars,  staple around Kilmarnock when I call at the
chippy there.

Ken.
MartinS - 12 Jun 2004 02:18 GMT
>>>Whatever happened to Dandelion & Burdock and Irn-Bru?
>>
[quoted text clipped - 4 lines]
> Irn Bru and battered Mars,  staple around Kilmarnock when I call at
> the chippy there.

I don't like my Mars bars beaten to a pulp.

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Ken Parkes - 13 Jun 2004 19:09 GMT
>>>>Whatever happened to Dandelion & Burdock and Irn-Bru?
>>>
[quoted text clipped - 6 lines]
>
> I don't like my Mars bars beaten to a pulp.

Modern technology,  you don't beat anymore you whisk,  in this case in and
out before it melts.

Ken.
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MartinS - 13 Jun 2004 19:44 GMT
>>>>>Whatever happened to Dandelion & Burdock and Irn-Bru?
>>>>
[quoted text clipped - 9 lines]
> Modern technology,  you don't beat anymore you whisk,  in this case
> in and out before it melts.

They don't just batter it with a blunt instrument?

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Philip Meech - 11 Jun 2004 01:03 GMT
That was supposed to be Flying Dutchman. You allare getting a little
batty going down memory lane. Do you have Peach Snapple, the iced tea
drink yet?

>>> Most good newservers will filter out binary attachments to a non-binary
>>> newsgroup, considered very bad manners to post such items ... fills up
[quoted text clipped - 20 lines]
> When I was at school, "Fling" was a popular brand of carbonated soft
> drink.
John Sullivan - 11 Jun 2004 07:20 GMT
>That was supposed to be Flying Dutchman. You allare getting a little
>batty going down memory lane. Do you have Peach Snapple, the iced tea
>drink yet?

Dunno. I prefer Earl Grey with lemon, myself.
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MartinS - 09 Jun 2004 23:04 GMT
> What is a binaries newsgroup? Am I not allowed to notify you of a 3.25
> Gauge Fling Dutchman for sale.

(a) One with .binaries. in the name. (b) Not with a picture attached.

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Philip Meech - 10 Jun 2004 02:38 GMT
Thanks for the info.  No picture except on www.discoverlivesteam.com in
the US.

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