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Model Forum / General / Railroads / June 2004Forth Bridge
Has anyone ever made an OO scale model of the Forth Bridge? I was going to attempt one to run my Virgin Voyager over until I realised how long it would have to be! Can anyone suggest other UK bridges which are easier to model but still very distinctive? >Can anyone suggest other UK bridges which are easier to model but still very >distinctive? Hungerford Bridge has been modelled before now - a model of Charing cross is not impossible, you would just need a very long thing site! >Has anyone ever made an OO scale model of the Forth Bridge? There was certainly a model being constructed several years ago, but whether or not it was ever completed, I don't know. Materials used seemed to be mainly grey plastic kitchen waste pipe and gutter down pipes, which give an idea of scale! Bits of the model used to appear at exhibitions in and around Colchester, probably twenty years ago now. I never did see more than fractions of the total at any one time. >I was going to attempt one to run my Virgin Voyager over until I realised how >long it would have to be! Indeed :-)  SignatureGraeme Eldred I know its not much help but I have seen one made from photos and constructed from matchsticks. It was an awesome sight and in OO scale was very long Rick > Has anyone ever made an OO scale model of the Forth Bridge? > [quoted text clipped - 3 lines] > Can anyone suggest other UK bridges which are easier to model but still very > distinctive? I saw one a few years ago in Harburn Hobbies hanging up in side the shop.i think it was 00. Ian Gearing I think it was still there when I was last in.............about a month ago...... There was a price sticker on it, though I can't remember how much... .......could be woth ringing them. > I saw one a few years ago in Harburn Hobbies hanging up in side the shop.i > think it was 00. > > Ian Gearing Very much doubt if anyone has a model of either HO/OO or N gauge. The bridge and approach viaducts are South Approach Viaduct 10 Spans of 168 ft. & 4 Approach Arches Queensferry Cantilever 680ft. 9ins. Queensferry Tower 145ft. Queensferry Cantilever 681ft. 9ins. Queensferry Connecting Girder 346ft. 6ins. Inchgarvie Cantilever 681ft. 9 ins. Inchgarvie Tower 260ft. Inchgarvie Cantilever 681ft. 9ins. Inchgarvie Connecting Girder 346ft. 6ins. Fife Cantilever 681ft. 9ins. Fife Tower 145ft. Fife Cantilever 689ft. 9ins. South Approach Viaduct 5 Spans of 168 ft. & 3 Approach Arches The height of the Bridge is 361ft. above the general high water datum line in 1890. However the height from the lowest foundation is 450ft. Rail level is at 158 ft. giving 150ft. clearance for shipping. The structure comprises of (from South to North) a total of 8296 ft. : Work that out at 1:148 or whatever else you like. Mighty BIG Remember even an HST looks like a gnat on a cows arse when crossing The Bridge. > I saw one a few years ago in Harburn Hobbies hanging up in side the shop.i > think it was 00. > > Ian Gearing > Very much doubt if anyone has a model of either HO/OO or N gauge. > [quoted text clipped - 24 lines] > Remember even an HST looks like a gnat on a cows arse when crossing The > Bridge. Brian Irwin of Border Railway Soc. is building a model slightly sub N-gauge which will carry N gauge models. He has had to reduce the scale to fit the available space and the transverse X-tubes at the piers have had to be slightly altered to clear the trains, but you would never know if he hadn't admitted it. Been building it for nearly two years - mad:) Ken. > > Very much doubt if anyone has a model of either HO/OO or N gauge. > > > > The bridge and approach viaducts are > > >........snip..........> > The height of the Bridge is 361ft. above the general high water datum line > > in 1890. However the height from the lowest foundation is 450ft. Rail level > > is at 158 ft. giving 150ft. clearance for shipping. [quoted text clipped - 13 lines] > > Ken. That is amazing. I must see it if it ever goes on show. A full size N Guage would be 56 ft long and 1.3 inches wide by 2.4 ft tall. A very long, not so tall very skinny structure. Check out my website http://brianseamens.pwp.blueyonder.co.uk/FORTH/index.htm A very interesting and imformative site - I enjoyed reading it. > Has anyone ever made an OO scale model of the Forth Bridge? > [quoted text clipped - 3 lines] > Can anyone suggest other UK bridges which are easier to model but > still very distinctive? Saltash? SignatureIf Your specification is vague or imprecise, you'll likely get what you asked for not what you want >> Has anyone ever made an OO scale model of the Forth Bridge? >> [quoted text clipped - 5 lines] > > Saltash? But doubt a Voyager is appropriate! SignatureIf Your specification is vague or imprecise, you'll likely get what you asked for not what you want Ideally I'm looking for somewhere in the North West/Wales because that's where most of my rolling stock is suited. Other sites I've been considering are: Britannia Bridge (Anglesey) - No Voyagers yet and train would be obscured by pillars King Edward VII Bridge (Newcastle) - 4 tracks wide and should be electrified Barmouth Bridge - No Voyagers (now or probably ever!) and model would still be 10m long! Keep the comments and suggestions coming though - really appreciate them! > Ideally I'm looking for somewhere in the North West/Wales because that's where > most of my rolling stock is suited. [quoted text clipped - 9 lines] > > Keep the comments and suggestions coming though - really appreciate them! Runcorn bridge - used to have Voyagers until Bowker stopped them Roodee Viaduct, Chester - expected to be enduring Voyagers from September. Bevan > Ideally I'm looking for somewhere in the North West/Wales because that's where > most of my rolling stock is suited. [quoted text clipped - 9 lines] > > Keep the comments and suggestions coming though - really appreciate them! The Conway bridge in North wales is rather nice, complete with a small station under the castle walls. Seen one Voyager, seen them all:) Ken. >> Ideally I'm looking for somewhere in the North West/Wales because >> that's where most of my rolling stock is suited. [quoted text clipped - 15 lines] > small station under the castle walls. Seen one Voyager, seen them > all:) Knaresborough - mediaeval style, station at one end, but no Voyagers. SignatureMartin S. >Can anyone suggest other UK bridges which are easier to model but still very >distinctive? Connel Ferry bridge a few miles north of Oban. It used to carry the Ballachulish branch line as well as a road. It still survives as a road bridge. Quite a futuristic structure, and in some ways similar to the Forth bridge, but a fair bit smaller :-) It's also got a parallel centre section which could be lengthened or shortened, to a certain extent, to suit your situation. http://www.undiscoveredscotland.co.uk/connel/connel/ Apparently, it is the second largest cantilever bridge in the world. Jim. >>Can anyone suggest other UK bridges which are easier to model but >>still very distinctive? [quoted text clipped - 11 lines] > Apparently, it is the second largest cantilever bridge in the > world. After the aforementioned Forth Bridge, I assume. SignatureMartin S. >> Apparently, it is the second largest cantilever bridge in the >> world. > >After the aforementioned Forth Bridge, I assume. But of course :-) Jim. > >> Apparently, it is the second largest cantilever bridge in the > >> world. [quoted text clipped - 4 lines] > > Jim. couldn't be, because there's one across the St.Laurence that may not be bigger than the Forth Bridge but is longer. David Dave, >> >> Apparently, it is the second largest cantilever bridge in the >> >> world. [quoted text clipped - 7 lines] >couldn't be, because there's one across the St.Laurence that may not >be bigger than the Forth Bridge but is longer. I'm not going to argue - I was only quoting from one of the web sites I looked at when trying to find a good photo of Connel Ferry bridge for my original message :-) Jim. > >> Apparently, it is the second largest cantilever bridge in the > >> world. [quoted text clipped - 4 lines] > > Jim. Following up almost immediately: The Quebec Bridge across the St. _Lawrence_ was completed in 1917 and is longer than the Forth Bridge. David...oops >> >> Apparently, it is the second largest cantilever bridge in the >> >> world. [quoted text clipped - 8 lines] > > David...oops The main span of the Quebec Bridge is 1800 feet, while the TWO main spans of the Forth Rail Bridge are each 1710 feet. The total length of the Forth Bridge, including approach spans, is about 1.5 miles, while the Québec Bridge is a little over half a mile. SignatureMartin S. >Has anyone ever made an OO scale model of the Forth Bridge? > [quoted text clipped - 3 lines] >Can anyone suggest other UK bridges which are easier to model but still very >distinctive? Brunel's bridge over the Thames at Maidenhead, although I don't believe it carries Voyagers. SignatureDavid Cantrell | http://www.cantrell.org.uk/david > Brunel's bridge over the Thames at Maidenhead, although I don't > believe it carries Voyagers. It does. There are occasional (couple per day) Virgin services through, between Reading and Kensington Olympia (and thence to Gatwick). You'd need lots of HSTs, 180s and 165/166s, though! PhilD -- <>< The length would be very long as I have recently been to scotland and the bridge dwarfed a train I seen crossing (Sprinter scotrail). Why not have a look at some of the railway bridges on the West Coast of Scotland or Highlands, there is a good variety of architeture and designs both modern and old. A friend modelling a section of west coast scenery recently obtained drawings and plans after writing to Scotrail in Glasgow, who kindly provided him with a set of blue prints of a bridge nr Inverness. Just some thoughts on this one. Regards Emma > Has anyone ever made an OO scale model of the Forth Bridge? > [quoted text clipped - 3 lines] > Can anyone suggest other UK bridges which are easier to model but still very > distinctive? Signature********************************************************************** This email and any files / attachments transmitted with it are private and confidential intended solely for the use of the individual or entity to whom they are addressed. If you have received this email in error please return it to the address it came from advising the sender that the message was received in error, you should not copy, distribute or show the content to anyone and immediately delete the message from your system, Unauthorised use or disclosure of the content may be unlawful. Any content that is not pertinent to the official business of the organisation is personal to the author. This email message has been swept for computer viruses. ********************************************************************** Cymraeg Mae'r e-bost hwn ac unrhyw atodiad iddo yn gyfrinachol ac fe'i bwriedir ar gyfer y sawl a enwir arno yn unig. Gall gynnwys gwybodaeth freintiedig. Os yw wedi eich cyrraedd trwy gamgymeriad ni ellwch ei gopio, ei ddosbarthu na'i ddangos i unrhyw un arall a dylech gysylltu â'r anfonwr ar unwaith. Mae unrhyw gynnwys nad yw'n ymwneud â busnes swyddogol y corff sy'n anfon yr e-bost yn bersonol i'r awdur. ********************************************************************** That's awfullly generous of Scotrail! I'll have to try that. Exactly how does a Train Operating Company have plans of structures that must be the domain of Network Rail Interested. > That's awfullly generous of Scotrail! > > I'll have to try that. I am only quoting some advice that friend was able to get the information via Scotrail, I really have no idea as I don't work for Scotrail. Emma > Exactly how does a Train Operating Company have plans of structures that > must be the domain of Network Rail [quoted text clipped - 4 lines] >> >>I'll have to try that. Signature********************************************************************** This email and any files / attachments transmitted with it are private and confidential intended solely for the use of the individual or entity to whom they are addressed. If you have received this email in error please return it to the address it came from advising the sender that the message was received in error, you should not copy, distribute or show the content to anyone and immediately delete the message from your system, Unauthorised use or disclosure of the content may be unlawful. Any content that is not pertinent to the official business of the organisation is personal to the author. This email message has been swept for computer viruses. ********************************************************************** Cymraeg Mae'r e-bost hwn ac unrhyw atodiad iddo yn gyfrinachol ac fe'i bwriedir ar gyfer y sawl a enwir arno yn unig. Gall gynnwys gwybodaeth freintiedig. Os yw wedi eich cyrraedd trwy gamgymeriad ni ellwch ei gopio, ei ddosbarthu na'i ddangos i unrhyw un arall a dylech gysylltu â'r anfonwr ar unwaith. Mae unrhyw gynnwys nad yw'n ymwneud â busnes swyddogol y corff sy'n anfon yr e-bost yn bersonol i'r awdur. ********************************************************************** >Has anyone ever made an OO scale model of the Forth Bridge? During the late Sixties and Seventies there used to be a cafe called the "Golden Griddle" in Hanover Street, Edinburgh. It was a long, narrow property. Mounted along the length of the left hand wall above the tables they had a huge "00" model of the Forth Bridge in half-relief, ie: only one side of the bridge was modelled. The deck was furnished with a single track of Tri-ang Super 4, along which a Tri-ang "Transcontinental" double-ended diesel locomotive (!) plied back and forward, courtesy of automatic reversing switches at either end. As a child, I used to visit this cafe every Wednesday with my mother and two great-aunts, and the sight of this enormous model with its constantly running "train" provided me with endless fascination. The cafe was taken over / refurbished sometime in the Eighties, IIRC, and the model of the Forth Bridge was removed. I wonder what happened to it..? SignatureSimon W. Hood |
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