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ViP - 25 Jun 2004 17:11 GMT
Any news on them???
Adrian - 28 Jun 2004 15:31 GMT
> Any news on them???

It was going to be May... Then it was July.. Now they are saying
September... Anyone betting they'll be here this side of Christmas???

Me? a cynic? Noooooo...Not me.

I reckon that the 66 and 57 models have taken priority.

Adrian
ViP - 28 Jun 2004 18:14 GMT
Oh Noooooooo!!! pity, 40s are more important surely!! ;-)

> > Any news on them???
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> Adrian
Fred - 28 Jun 2004 22:18 GMT
>> Any news on them???
>
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>
> Adrian

Indeed. And I think Heljan can tell you why.

Fred
Keith Norgrove - 28 Jun 2004 23:42 GMT
>>> Any news on them???
>>
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>
>Indeed. And I think Heljan can tell you why.

The 66 is still listed as November, two months behind the 40, and the
57 doesn't have a date yet, see
<http://www.bachmann.co.uk/prod1.php4?prod_selected=branchline&prod=2>
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Adrian - 29 Jun 2004 12:42 GMT
> The 66 is still listed as November, two months behind the 40, and the
> 57 doesn't have a date yet, see
> <http://www.bachmann.co.uk/prod1.php4?prod_selected=branchline&prod=2>

That may be the case, and that date may stand, but the point is that
Bachmann have competition with the 66 and 57, so they will put their
energies into getting that out ASAP.

I'm not necessarily saying that the 66 & 57 will appear before the 40, but
work on the 40 won't be allowed to delay them. The 40 has after all been in
development for over a year, and the pre-prod models were at Warley. We've
seen nothing of the 66 or 57, but I'll bet they will be out this year.

Adrian
John Turner - 29 Jun 2004 13:14 GMT
> I'm not necessarily saying that the 66 & 57 will appear before the 40, but
> work on the 40 won't be allowed to delay them. The 40 has after all been in
> development for over a year, and the pre-prod models were at Warley. We've
> seen nothing of the 66 or 57, but I'll bet they will be out this year.

Try reading my post earlier in this thread.  It is being reported that
Bachmann have dropped the 57 and Heljan are not proceeding with the 66.

Common sense prevailing at last???

John.
Adrian - 29 Jun 2004 14:15 GMT
> Try reading my post earlier in this thread.  It is being reported that
> Bachmann have dropped the 57 and Heljan are not proceeding with the 66.
>
> Common sense prevailing at last???

Sorry - missed that.

Interesting. Where did youe hear that? I was never convinced that Heljan
could develope the Western, 66 and 57 in any reasonable period of time. Add
to that talk of a 33 and 26/27s and that would be a lot of development work
for Hornby or Bachmann, let alone Heljan.

Adrian
John Turner - 29 Jun 2004 15:03 GMT
> Interesting. Where did youe hear that? I was never convinced that Heljan
> could develope the Western, 66 and 57 in any reasonable period of time.

It was reported on one of the internet email groups which has members
connected with the model railway press.

John.
KimPateman - 29 Jun 2004 20:40 GMT
Adrian wrote:-

>> Try reading my post earlier in this thread.  It is being reported that
>> Bachmann have dropped the 57 and Heljan are not proceeding with the 66.
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>
>Interesting. Where did youe hear that?

It has been reported that Heljan has dropped all mention of the 66 from their
website. This is possibly a result of legal intervention.

(kim)
Nick Gurney - 29 Jun 2004 21:41 GMT
>It has been reported that Heljan has dropped all mention of the 66 from their
>website. This is possibly a result of legal intervention.

Rubbish

Nick
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KimPateman - 29 Jun 2004 20:36 GMT
John Turner wrote:-

>Try reading my post earlier in this thread.  It is being reported that
>Bachmann have dropped the 57 and Heljan are not proceeding with the 66.
>
>Common sense prevailing at last???

GM licensing arrangements prevailing at last?

Some people will always prefer a Heljan version of the 66 so why shouldn't we
have a choice?

(kim)
Rich Mackin - 29 Jun 2004 20:59 GMT
> John Turner wrote:-
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> GM licensing arrangements prevailing at last?

Did Lima have to pursue a licence for their 66?

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Ian Bartlett - 29 Jun 2004 21:06 GMT
By cunningly disguising it to not look like a 66, they didn't need to...
:)

> Did Lima have to pursue a licence for their 66?
Rich Mackin - 29 Jun 2004 21:39 GMT
> By cunningly disguising it to not look like a 66, they didn't need to...
> :)

Hehe, they could just argue that it was a 59 in a Hornby-Virgin-DVT-styleeee
:)

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John Turner - 30 Jun 2004 01:06 GMT
> Hehe, they could just argue that it was a 59 in a Hornby-Virgin-DVT-styleeee
> :)

At least Hornby got the colour right - more than Lima EVER managed with
their attempt(s) at EWS red.

John.
John Turner - 30 Jun 2004 01:05 GMT
> By cunningly disguising it to not look like a 66, they didn't need to...
> :)

LOL - funny but a reassuringly accurate assessment of the Lima (lack of)
effort.

John.
Ben - 30 Jun 2004 22:35 GMT
>> Did Lima have to pursue a licence for their 66?
>
>By cunningly disguising it to not look like a 66, they didn't need to...
>:)

LOL!! :o)
Mick Bryan - 28 Jun 2004 22:31 GMT
> > Any news on them???
>
> It was going to be May... Then it was July.. Now they are saying
> September... Anyone betting they'll be here this side of Christmas???

Bachy'll have some big release just in time for the NEC show in early
December - I bet it's the 40.

Mick
John Turner - 29 Jun 2004 00:17 GMT
> I reckon that the 66 and 57 models have taken priority.

I believe the Bachy 57 has been quietly dropped, and Heljan have allegedly
done the same with the 66.

So where's the fuffing 40s?  I want mine NOW!

John.
John Sullivan - 29 Jun 2004 07:38 GMT
>> I reckon that the 66 and 57 models have taken priority.
>
>I believe the Bachy 57 has been quietly dropped, and Heljan have allegedly
>done the same with the 66.
>
>So where's the fuffing 40s?  I want mine NOW!

I want a 57. That's a 57XX, the one with the original cab, that Bachmann
don't do any more.
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Stu - 29 Jun 2004 12:24 GMT
> >> I reckon that the 66 and 57 models have taken priority.
> >
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> I want a 57. That's a 57XX, the one with the original cab, that Bachmann
> don't do any more.

I'll have ready to run 4-CIG/CEP/VEP's in the current Southern colours -
some unbranded Connex and some with the 'new' green. I'll take 6 please
Bachmann...

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Jon - 30 Jun 2004 23:51 GMT
> > >> I reckon that the 66 and 57 models have taken priority.
> > >
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>
> Stu

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