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Converting Hornby Ringfield Motors

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Gary - 18 Sep 2004 08:16 GMT
Hello

Does anyone know if it is possible to fit the 5 pole armature from their
ringfield motor straight into the older 3 pole ringfield motors

Thanks
Gary
John Turner - 18 Sep 2004 10:03 GMT
> Does anyone know if it is possible to fit the 5 pole armature from their
> ringfield motor straight into the older 3 pole ringfield motors

It's not possible, they have different armature shaft diameters.

John.
Gary - 18 Sep 2004 12:35 GMT
Grrrr the sly buggers :-)

oh well

Thanks anyway John

> > Does anyone know if it is possible to fit the 5 pole armature from their
> > ringfield motor straight into the older 3 pole ringfield motors
>
> It's not possible, they have different armature shaft diameters.
>
> John.
kim - 20 Sep 2004 20:33 GMT
You would think someone would have invented a brushless DC motor by now?

kim :o)
John Sullivan - 20 Sep 2004 21:00 GMT
>You would think someone would have invented a brushless DC motor by now?
>
>kim :o)

Why don't you set to work and invent one? After you've perfected your
perpetual motion machine, squared the circle and duplicated the cube of
course.
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John Sullivan
OO in the garden http://www.yddraiggoch.demon.co.uk/railway/railway.html
My next project: Extend the layout back up the other side of the garden.

Mark Thornton - 20 Sep 2004 21:21 GMT
>> You would think someone would have invented a brushless DC motor by now?
>>
[quoted text clipped - 3 lines]
> perpetual motion machine, squared the circle and duplicated the cube of
> course.

Like this perhaps:

http://www.teamnovak.com/products/MOTOR/motor.htm

this type of motor has existed for many years.
Ken Parkes - 20 Sep 2004 21:25 GMT
> You would think someone would have invented a brushless DC motor by now?
>
> kim :o)

It's called a linear motor.

Ken
Keith Norgrove - 21 Sep 2004 01:55 GMT
>> You would think someone would have invented a brushless DC motor by now?
>>
[quoted text clipped - 3 lines]
>
>Ken

No its not.
Linear motors are a different thing entirely and could be built with
brushes although most are AC and don't need brushes any more than
rotary AC motors do.
Keith

Make friends in the hobby.
Visit <http://www.grovenor.dsl.pipex.com/>
Garratt photos for the big steam lovers.
Gary - 22 Sep 2004 09:06 GMT
The problem with DC brushless motors is Torque, unless you have large
windings and rotors they do not produce much torque.

Sony developed Tiny brushless dc motors for there top  of the range walkmans
in late 80s and early 90s but these would not produce enough torque to be
useful in a loco.

That's my two penneth worth

Gary

> >> You would think someone would have invented a brushless DC motor by now?
> >>
[quoted text clipped - 13 lines]
> Visit <http://www.grovenor.dsl.pipex.com/>
> Garratt photos for the big steam lovers.
Gary - 22 Sep 2004 21:28 GMT
Dc Brushless motors have been around since the very late 1960s in the hi-fi
turntable world but the problem with them is they do not produce enough
Torque unless you have large windings and rotors and associated circuitry to
drive them.

Sony developed Tiny brushless dc motors for there top of the range walkmans
in late 80s and early 90s but these would not produce enough torque to be
useful in a loco.

That's my two penneth worth

Gary

> >> You would think someone would have invented a brushless DC motor by now?
> >>
[quoted text clipped - 13 lines]
> Visit <http://www.grovenor.dsl.pipex.com/>
> Garratt photos for the big steam lovers.
Ken Parkes - 29 Sep 2004 15:04 GMT
>>> You would think someone would have invented a brushless DC motor by
>>> now?
[quoted text clipped - 14 lines]
> Visit <http://www.grovenor.dsl.pipex.com/> Garratt photos for the big
> steam lovers.About Linear Motors

Sorry, missed your follow up.  Just changed my newsreader characteristics
and it surfaced.  Look at:-

Globalspec Engineering search Engine
Show all Linear Motors companies
   Quote
<Linear motors generate force only in the direction of travel. A linear
motor applies thrust directly to a load, and does not require any
intermediate mechanism to convert rotary motion into linear motion. Linear
motors are capable of extremely high speeds, quick acceleration, and
accurate positioning.

Choices for linear motors include moving coil, moving magnet, AC switched
reluctance design, AC synchronous design, AC induction or traction design,
linear stepping design, DC brushed design, and DC brushless design.........>
  Unquote

Ken.
 
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