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Neal Ball - 27 Sep 2004 20:50 GMT
What has happened to teh Western? I thought they were due in August??
John Turner - 27 Sep 2004 23:37 GMT
> What has happened to teh Western? I thought they were due in August??

Now believed to be October, just not sure which year!  ;-)

John.
Mick Bryan - 28 Sep 2004 23:29 GMT
> > What has happened to teh Western? I thought they were due in August??
>
> Now believed to be October, just not sure which year!  ;-)
>
> John.

I would guess that it's *definitely* available for the NEC show!!

Cheers,
Mick
John Turner - 28 Sep 2004 23:56 GMT
> I would guess that it's *definitely* available for the NEC show!!

As I think that's in December this year it's a pretty fair assessment.

John.
gppsoftware@gppsoftware.com - 28 Sep 2004 01:03 GMT
Heljan told me that the Western is due in October this year.
Graham Plowman
ViP - 28 Sep 2004 01:19 GMT
How about the dogfish? anyone got any pics of them?

> Heljan told me that the Western is due in October this year.
> Graham Plowman
John Turner - 28 Sep 2004 10:18 GMT
> What has happened to teh Western? I thought they were due in August??

Undernoted is the significant part of an email which I received fromHeljan
A/S this morning.  I think this fully answers your question.

John.

< quote starts >

CLASS 52 WESTERN
================

Unfortunately we are a little delayed with this project. Just for your
information, then the Class 52 will become available in November 2004. It
might also turn up in October, but this is not 100% yet. So if customers is
asking you, then please say November.

If any questions, then please let me know.

Best regards,
HELJAN A/S

Kim Nannestad

< quote ends >
ViP - 29 Sep 2004 23:17 GMT
Anything on the dogfish wagons??? will heljan be replacing their 47s with
spring buffers?

> > What has happened to teh Western? I thought they were due in August??
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John Turner - 30 Sep 2004 00:44 GMT
> Anything on the dogfish wagons??? will heljan be replacing their 47s with
> spring buffers?

Nah, I think they'll stick to 47s, sprung buffers are not much good for
pulling trains.  ;-)

Personally I don't think sprung buffers are an issue.  Look at the oval ones
on the Bachmann Deltic and class 20 D8000.  Personally I'd prefer a moulded
plastic non-working buffer, providing it's the right shape.

John.
MartinS - 30 Sep 2004 01:50 GMT
>> Anything on the dogfish wagons??? will heljan be replacing their
>> 47s with spring buffers?
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> prefer a moulded plastic non-working buffer, providing it's the
> right shape.

Yes, I don't really see the point in spring buffers either. One more
thing to break or fall off.

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ViP - 30 Sep 2004 02:10 GMT
erm... how about the dogfish wagons???

> >> Anything on the dogfish wagons??? will heljan be replacing their
> >> 47s with spring buffers?
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> Martin S.
John Turner - 30 Sep 2004 09:59 GMT
> erm... how about the dogfish wagons???

I'd have answered that if I'd known.

John.
ViP - 30 Sep 2004 11:51 GMT
ok John, I thought you were avoiding the question ;-)

> > erm... how about the dogfish wagons???
>
> I'd have answered that if I'd known.
>
> John.
Paul Boyd - 30 Sep 2004 17:00 GMT
> Yes, I don't really see the point in spring buffers either. One more
> thing to break or fall off.

How about for buffering up stock?  When solid buffers hit each other, it
doesn't give a realistic impression!

I think the point is that not everyone sticks with the hook-and-bar
couplings, which presumably is why they're removable these days.  People who
replace them with 3-link, Alex Jackson, Dingham etc. will want sprung
buffers.

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ViP - 30 Sep 2004 17:07 GMT
I would prefer sprung but looks like it wont happen with the 47s :-(  have
the hymeks got sprung buffers?

> > Yes, I don't really see the point in spring buffers either. One more
> > thing to break or fall off.
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MartinS - 30 Sep 2004 17:58 GMT
>> Yes, I don't really see the point in spring buffers either. One
>> more thing to break or fall off.
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> People who replace them with 3-link, Alex Jackson, Dingham etc. will
> want sprung buffers.

The buffer springs, on my Hornby Black 5 at least, are too stiff to
deflect realistically. With weaker springs, the buffers might dangle.

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Martin S.

Paul Boyd - 30 Sep 2004 18:30 GMT
> The buffer springs, on my Hornby Black 5 at least, are too stiff to
> deflect realistically. With weaker springs, the buffers might dangle.

Ah well - I don't have a Hornby Black 5, but I do have their new 50, for
some bizarre reason.  Now you come to mention it, the buffers on that are a
bit heavily sprung as well, so perhaps there isn't much point if it isn't
done properly.   As I tend to model 30's GWR, or light railway such as
WC&PR, or even 1910's MR, I haven't actually run the 50 yet!

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John Sullivan - 30 Sep 2004 19:25 GMT
> People who
>replace them with 3-link, Alex Jackson, Dingham etc. will want sprung
>buffers.

People who replace them with 3-link, Alex Jackson, Dingham etc. are
quite capable of installing sprung buffers as well.
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John Sullivan
OO in the garden http://www.yddraiggoch.demon.co.uk/railway/railway.html
My next project: Extend the layout back up the other side of the garden.

 
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