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Ian Cornish - 30 Jan 2005 08:39 GMT

I'm looking to gather some historical information on 2 of my older
Hornby models. I'm looking specifically for info on the type of work
they used to do etc.
The first is an LMS 1000, Class 4P 4-4-0 Compound, Hornby Model R376.
This is a tender driven model, and has major problems on my 1st radius
curves, but is OK on the 2nd radius curves.
The 2nd is also an LMS, 2-6-4 number 2312. It's a Hornby, made in
England, but that's all i know about it. Like the first one, it also has
problems on the 1st radius curves.

I'm also looking for a "complimentary" engine (looking to buy in
March/April) that would work well on the 1st radius curves too, to work
on the goods side of my railway.

Thanks in advance for advice/help, or even pointing me to where this
information can be found on the web.

Ian

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Keith Norgrove - 30 Jan 2005 10:49 GMT

>I'm looking to gather some historical information on 2 of my older
>Hornby models. I'm looking specifically for info on the type of work
>they used to do etc.
>The first is an LMS 1000, Class 4P 4-4-0 Compound, Hornby Model R376.
>This is a tender driven model, and has major problems on my 1st radius
>curves, but is OK on the 2nd radius curves.

The Compounds were top rank express locos through the '20s, relegated
to second rank as Stanier engines came on stream in the '30s.

>The 2nd is also an LMS, 2-6-4 number 2312. It's a Hornby, made in
>England, but that's all i know about it. Like the first one, it also has
>problems on the 1st radius curves.

The 2-6-4T locos were used on heavy suburban/commuter trains and a
variety of other shorter distance passenger workings as well as fitted
freights.

>I'm also looking for a "complimentary" engine (looking to buy in
>March/April) that would work well on the 1st radius curves too, to work
>on the goods side of my railway.

The most common goods engine for the LMS was the 4F 0-6-0 available
from Hornby, for shunting the 3F 0-6-0T from Bachmann. For heavy
freights the Crab 2-6-0 from Bachmann or the 8F 2-8-0 from Hornby but
these last 2 probably won't like 1st radius either.

>Thanks in advance for advice/help, or even pointing me to where this
>information can be found on the web.

Try Google searches on any of these loco names or just on LMS Railway.
Keith

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Kevin Martin - 30 Jan 2005 15:05 GMT

wrote about his small fleet of locos & problems of 1st radius curves.

Ian,

The 1st radius curves will always give problems. It is because they are
considerably tighter than scale and many recent model locos just wont go
round them.

Older models had more *slop* in the wheelsets and could go round,
although IMHO nothing looks worse than large tender locos doing so.

As recently Hornby have realised that most modellers these days are
adults and demand a higher quality product the 1st radius curve is in a
decline and perhaps will disappear off the market.

Remember, the 1st radius curve is vastly sharper than a real loco could
possibly go round, certainly not at more than *dead slow* walking pace.

Kevin Martin

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Mark Thornton - 30 Jan 2005 15:10 GMT

> wrote about his small fleet of locos & problems of 1st radius curves.
>
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> considerably tighter than scale and many recent model locos just wont go
> round them.

It's not just 1 radius curves that are tighter than scale. Almost all of
our curves are tighter than scale at least in OO unless perhaps your
track is in a large garden (large that is by modern standards). The best
I can do in the area I am permitted to occupy with track is < 600mm radius.

Mark Thornton

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MartinS - 30 Jan 2005 16:57 GMT

> I'm also looking for a "complimentary" engine (looking to buy in
> March/April) that would work well on the 1st radius curves too, to
> work on the goods side of my railway.

I doubt you'll find any free ones, but you might find something to
compl/e/ment your current locos.

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