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Bob Heath - 24 Feb 2005 22:27 GMT
Sorry about this off topic, but we have a Xerox Tektronix 850 printer that
needs mending. Anyone know of a good cheap engineer in the Nottingham area?
We are struggling to find someone.

Thank you in advance

Bob
Piemanlager - 24 Feb 2005 22:31 GMT
It would probably be more expensive to get it fixed than to buy another
printer.
You can get printers for about £30+ these days, depending on what you want
to do with it. For photos the £99 Epson r300 is superb.

> Sorry about this off topic, but we have a Xerox Tektronix 850 printer that
> needs mending. Anyone know of a good cheap engineer in the Nottingham
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>
> Bob
kim - 24 Feb 2005 23:15 GMT
> It would probably be more expensive to get it fixed than to buy another
> printer.
> You can get printers for about £30+ these days,

...and replacement cartridges for £70 :o)

(kim)
MartinS - 24 Feb 2005 23:29 GMT
> "Piemanlager" <simon.nospamevans2@ntlworld.com> wrote...
>> It would probably be more expensive to get it fixed than to buy
>> another printer. You can get printers for about £30+ these days,
>
> ...and replacement cartridges for £70 :o)

Just throw away the printer and buy another one. ;-)

My wife bought a digital clock/thermometer/hygrometer from Radio Shack,
on sale for about 3 quid. They tried to sell her an extended warranty!

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Bob Heath - 25 Feb 2005 07:05 GMT
> It would probably be more expensive to get it fixed than to buy another
> printer.
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>>
>>£600 + printer

Bob
kim - 25 Feb 2005 08:14 GMT
>> It would probably be more expensive to get it fixed than to buy another
>> printer.
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>>>
>>>£600 + printer

I know. My local print shop only ever leased equipment like that and when it
went wrong (which was often) a man from Xerox had to come round and fix it.

(kim)
Piemanlager - 25 Feb 2005 09:57 GMT
>>>£600 + printer
>
> Bob

What do you use it for? Professional use?
Bob Heath - 25 Feb 2005 17:38 GMT
>>>>£600 + printer
>>
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>need to get the machine fixed This machine does 24 colour ppm against 4ppm
>for your average small office/home type

Bob
Andy Sollis-  Churnet Valley model Railway Dept. - 26 Feb 2005 23:00 GMT
Bob,
   Try Tri-com at Hucknall.. 0115 9565953. Ask for Gail or Andy.

Located at side of Ambulance station on North side of the Hucknall By-pass
(Best thing about the place!)

No connection, other than (Very) satisfied customer
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Wolf Kirchmeir - 25 Feb 2005 17:08 GMT
>>It would probably be more expensive to get it fixed than to buy another
>>printer.
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>
> Bob

Sorry I can't answer your specific question, but IMO you should buy a
service contract at the earliest opportunity -- if they will sell one
after initial purchase. Good luck!

(For those who advised junking and buying a new one, Bob's machine is a
colour laser.)
kim - 25 Feb 2005 22:48 GMT
>>>It would probably be more expensive to get it fixed than to buy another
>>>printer.
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> service contract at the earliest opportunity -- if they will sell one
> after initial purchase. Good luck!

Under UK law they can cancel the contract at any time and refund the premium
if the machine develops a fault which they consider is too expensive for
them to fix. In other words a service contract is not worth the paper it's
written on.

(kim)
Wolf Kirchmeir - 26 Feb 2005 00:48 GMT
[...]
>>Sorry I can't answer your specific question, but IMO you should buy a
>>service contract at the earliest opportunity -- if they will sell one
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>
> (kim)

Good grief! What kind of posterior orifices passed that law????
kim - 26 Feb 2005 15:49 GMT
> [...]
>>>Sorry I can't answer your specific question, but IMO you should buy a
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>
> Good grief! What kind of posterior orifices passed that law????

As far as I can tell there are no UK laws dealing specifically with what an
insurance policy is and what it covers only that in that in certain cases
you must have it. The home appliance insurance racket is one of the best
known scams in the country. Taking out legal insurance doesn't help either
as I discovered last year. Essentially, whatever you claim for is the one
thing not covered by the policy.

(kim)
John Turner - 26 Feb 2005 16:38 GMT
> As far as I can tell there are no UK laws dealing specifically with what an
> insurance policy is and what it covers only that in that in certain cases
> you must have it. The home appliance insurance racket is one of the best
> known scams in the country. Taking out legal insurance doesn't help either
> as I discovered last year. Essentially, whatever you claim for is the one
> thing not covered by the policy.

A friend who works for one of the large electrical retailers tells me his
employer earns far more money by selling extended warranties than they do
from selling the electrical goods.  Commission paid by the insurers to the
stores can be as high as 80%.

Now that doesn't suggest good value for money to me.

John.
MartinS - 26 Feb 2005 18:25 GMT
>> As far as I can tell there are no UK laws dealing specifically with
>> what an insurance policy is and what it covers only that in that in
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>
> Now that doesn't suggest good value for money to me.

I never buy extended warranties, no matter how hard the salesman tries
to persuade me. I have in the past, but never collected on one. I bought
one for a new car, with an offer from the dealer to refund my money if I
didn't claim on it. Six years later I got my money back! Even a factory
warranty can be worthless, if it costs you more to send a product for
repair than to buy a new one!

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John Turner - 26 Feb 2005 19:00 GMT
> I never buy extended warranties, no matter how hard the salesman tries
> to persuade me. I

Me neither, I always tell them I'll buy another if it fails outside a
reasonable period, otherwise I expect them to mend up free of charge anyway.

John.
John Sullivan - 26 Feb 2005 19:28 GMT
>> I never buy extended warranties, no matter how hard the salesman tries
>> to persuade me. I
>
>Me neither, I always tell them I'll buy another if it fails outside a
>reasonable period, otherwise I expect them to mend up free of charge anyway.

I tell them that they shouldn't be selling faulty goods. If they are not
faulty you don't need the extended warranty, and if they break within a
reasonable period of purchase I expect them to fix it under the terms of
current legislation, or under the manufacturer's guarantee. If the thing
goes wrong after three years you might as well buy a new one because
what with technology moving on at the speed it does today anything you
buy in three or more years' time is bound to be better than the load of
junk you are buying today. That usually shuts them up. If they don't
shut up I walk out and they lose the sale.
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manatbandq@hotmail.com - 28 Feb 2005 15:01 GMT
> > [...]
> >>>Sorry I can't answer your specific question, but IMO you should buy a
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> >> Under UK law they can cancel the contract at any time and refund the
> >> premium if the machine develops a fault which they consider is too

> >> expensive for them to fix. In other words a service contract is not worth
> >> the paper it's written on.
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>
> (kim)

Especially when the shop assistant (Comet in this case) lies about what
is/isn't covered. I turned down an extended warranty for an expensive
large screen LCD TV. The assistant was adamant that Comet's warranty
would cover me for failure of a single pixel where the manufacturer
will only replace the display if a cluster of pixels fail causing a
noticeable error in the picture. A month later I received a letter
offering me a second chance to buy a warranty. This time it came with
written terms and conditions which expressly stated that pixel failures
not covered by the manufacturer's warranty were *not* covered.

Caveat Emptor.

MBQ
Ken Parkes - 27 Feb 2005 23:47 GMT
> It would probably be more expensive to get it fixed than to buy another
> printer.
> You can get printers for about £30+ these days, depending on what you
> want to do with it. For photos the £99 Epson r300 is superb.

Our local Jessops is using one in the shop to demonstrate digital cameras.
 
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