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mindesign - 25 Sep 2005 22:00 GMT

Hi folks

Just wondering if someone out there knows the story of the life of these
lovely little models?

I have bought several over time - all through eBay - and find it difficult
to work out which I am actually going to receive. What I mean is: It looks
like that must've started production back in the 60's and have continued
through to now. I am yet to see any with fitted interiors (would like to
find interiors for mine), but they certainly had a range of detailing at
least paint-wise over the years. Also, their length changed and glazing was
added at some point too, I think.

The ones I am most interested in buying are the one with more highly
detailed paintwork in LMS and GWR.

Any help would be much appreciated

Thanks

Steve

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Ken Parkes - 26 Sep 2005 19:34 GMT

> Hi folks
>
> Just wondering if someone out there knows the story of the life of these
> lovely little models?

A model of no known prototype? Par for the course.

Ken.

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kim - 28 Sep 2005 17:42 GMT

>> Hi folks
>>
>> Just wondering if someone out there knows the story of the life of these
>> lovely little models?
>>
> A model of no known prototype? Par for the course.

Was it not released originally as a BR engineering coach in departmental
green ie: not meant to represent any particular company design?

(kim)

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John Turner - 28 Sep 2005 18:03 GMT

> Was it not released originally as a BR engineering coach in departmental
> green ie: not meant to represent any particular company design?

Originally released in GWR chocolate & cream if I remember correctly. It
was later released in both olive green and black livery represting a
departmental coach.

John.

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Ken Parkes - 28 Sep 2005 21:24 GMT

>> Was it not released originally as a BR engineering coach in departmental
>> green ie: not meant to represent any particular company design?
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>
> John.

That's right. I was new to the hobby and bought two to run behind a
pannier I was building. Found out a few months later they were imaginary,
so hacked them into three, four wheelers, also slightly non-proto, but
better looking.

Ken.

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ab - 28 Sep 2005 21:59 GMT

>Originally released in GWR chocolate & cream if I remember correctly. It
>was later released in both olive green and black livery represting a
>departmental coach.

On a related subject, anyone know a source (preferably cheap) of
replacement bogies for these?

I recently acquired a few of these coaches which have had the bogies
replaced with metal EM (or some such) bogies, and would like to be
able to run them on my bog-standard OO.

(ab)

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John Turner - 28 Sep 2005 18:04 GMT

> The ones I am most interested in buying are the one with more highly
> detailed paintwork in LMS and GWR.

These are longer than the original Tri-ang releases, but do not have the
raised panel beading, it being represented by the more complex painting as
you suggest. A real case of a retrograde step by Hornby in my opinion.

John.

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mindesign - 28 Sep 2005 21:56 GMT

LOL all I know is I like what I think of as the "later" offering, which is
usually in GWR livery and sports well detailed paintwork.

I think they're cute and should look great behind my earlier locos. I guess
I have 15 of them in LNER and LMS liveries, as well as a couple of Ratio
kitbuilt ones - at least I think they're ratio kits

Thanks all

Steve

>> The ones I am most interested in buying are the one with more highly
>> detailed paintwork in LMS and GWR.
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>
> John.

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Bill Davies - 28 Sep 2005 23:33 GMT

> These are longer than the original Tri-ang releases, but do not have the
> raised panel beading, it being represented by the more complex painting as
> you suggest. A real case of a retrograde step by Hornby in my opinion.

I was a teenager when these were first released, they were a huge
disappointment to me as the pre-production mockups showed full panelling.
From memory, the Triang coaches matched plans of some GWR clerestory
diagrams reaonably well, but were shortened by a few panels, I'm afraid I
can't remember which diagrams they matched most closely (I last looked into
this over 20 years ago). A cut and shut could produce a reasonably accurate
model, but is it really worth it when there are other options in kit form?
Cheers,
Bill.

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