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Piemanlarger - 29 Nov 2005 13:02 GMT
Bachmann 57 are out, shall be returning with a freightliner and possibly the
Virgin one in just over an hour all being well. My supplier tells me he
thinks the Virgin one has the deliner? (funny coupling thing!) as a separate
item the box.
I am also picking up a couple of hornby seacows so it will be interesting to
see how they compare with the lima ones!
John Turner - 29 Nov 2005 13:52 GMT
> Bachmann 57 are out, shall be returning with a freightliner and possibly
> the Virgin one in just over an hour all being well. My supplier tells me
> he thinks the Virgin one has the deliner? (funny coupling thing!) as a
> separate item the box.

Don't think so Simon, the ones we've just received do not include the cab
front recess which would be necessary to fit that coupling, and I can't find
one in the boxes.

John.
Piemanlarger - 29 Nov 2005 14:54 GMT
>> Bachmann 57 are out, shall be returning with a freightliner and possibly
>> the Virgin one in just over an hour all being well. My supplier tells me
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>
> John.

No coupling on the thunderbird, still it will do until one is made
available.
Bugger! Both are nice looking models, but there is no room inside for
speakers when the sound chip becomes available, due to an enormous chassis
block!

For sale, Freightliner 57 and Thunderbird!

No, not really. I will run them in tonight (DC) and then see how they
perform with a gold chip, though getting to the capacitors looks like it
could be a job!
One thing that I do find a disappointment is that pick up is not off all
wheels, its 8 per bogie as with 66 etc.
John Lancaster - 29 Nov 2005 16:38 GMT
> No coupling on the thunderbird, still it will do until one is made
> available.
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> One thing that I do find a disappointment is that pick up is not off all
> wheels, its 8 per bogie as with 66 etc.

Evening all,

Pics of the Bachy 57s are now on the Hattons websites. Nothing beats
inspecting the models first-hand, but I've noticed a few small decorative
errors from looking at these pics. 57008 has the printed nameplate at the
wrong end on one side. A quick search on Fotopic proves that the nameplates
should be at the right hand end of *both* sides when looking side-on. I
suppose it is easily remedied by removing the errant print and applying the
etched plates in the correct place! 57301 thankfully doesn't suffer from the
same problem, although the numbers are slightly too high up, although how
obvious that looks and if it can be lived with depends on the individual!
57602 is almost spot-on, apart from the printed names being a little too low
down and the numberplates a little large, but I think that's really
clutching at straws!!! One thing, at first glance these Bachmann efforts
certainly look better in most respects than the Heljan ones (especially the
Virgin one having names!), and are much cheaper! Plus, the first of the
(rather tasty looking) Mk.1 Pullmans has appeared.

Cheers,
John.
Piemanlarger - 29 Nov 2005 17:12 GMT
>> No coupling on the thunderbird, still it will do until one is made
>> available.
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> side-on. I suppose it is easily remedied by removing the errant print and
> applying the etched plates in the correct place!

Bugger, wish I had read this before the super glue came out!

57301 thankfully doesn't suffer from the
> same problem, although the numbers are slightly too high up, although how
> obvious that looks and if it can be lived with depends on the individual!
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> Cheers,
> John.
David Skipsey - 29 Nov 2005 17:54 GMT
> One thing, at first glance these Bachmann efforts certainly look better in
> most respects than the Heljan ones (especially the Virgin one having
> names!), and are much cheaper! Plus, the first of the (rather tasty
> looking) Mk.1 Pullmans has appeared.

Our Tubby Virgins are named with etched plates.

http://www.wirralfinescale.com/images/layouts/widnes/24092005/TS092.JPG

And our flying bits are also etched not printed.

Waiting for the ANC next day delivery man tomorrow .....

As soon as I can I will photo the F/Liner one and put them on our site.
(Haven't ordered the 57/3 or /6 - tubbies will do me for now)

They look pretty good at first glance though.

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DAS,

All opinions are mine and mine alone
http://merseyjcn.fotopic.net/
http://www.wirralfinescale.com/
Quality modelling and no politics

Robert Wilson - 29 Nov 2005 18:09 GMT
Sod, the Thunderbirds, will they decents Duffs?

>>One thing, at first glance these Bachmann efforts certainly look better in
>>most respects than the Heljan ones (especially the Virgin one having
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>
> They look pretty good at first glance though.
John Lancaster - 29 Nov 2005 18:16 GMT
>> One thing, at first glance these Bachmann efforts certainly look better
>> in most respects than the Heljan ones (especially the Virgin one having
[quoted text clipped - 6 lines]
>
> And our flying bits are also etched not printed.

Ah! The infamous top secret Wirral Finescale etched parts! You could have
made a fortune if you'd made these available to the public!!!  ;o)

Looking forward to seeing Vine Yard, and those new signals, at Wigan!

Cheers,
John.
David Skipsey - 29 Nov 2005 19:17 GMT
John,

> Ah! The infamous top secret Wirral Finescale etched parts! You could have
> made a fortune if you'd made these available to the public!!!  ;o)

And got sued by Carlton !!!

> Looking forward to seeing Vine Yard, and those new signals, at Wigan!

Come and say hello.

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DAS,

All opinions are mine and mine alone
http://merseyjcn.fotopic.net/
http://www.wirralfinescale.com/
Quality modelling and no politics

John Lancaster - 29 Nov 2005 20:31 GMT
> John,
>
>> Ah! The infamous top secret Wirral Finescale etched parts! You could have
>> made a fortune if you'd made these available to the public!!!  ;o)
>
> And got sued by Carlton !!!

Erm, quite!

>> Looking forward to seeing Vine Yard, and those new signals, at Wigan!
>
> Come and say hello.

I shall! Just make sure you wear a name badge!!!

Cheers,
John.
John Turner - 29 Nov 2005 20:33 GMT
> I shall! Just make sure you wear a name badge!!!

You'll recognise him without a badge, he's the slim, handsome one
........................... !  ;-)

<VBG>

John.
John Lancaster - 29 Nov 2005 20:58 GMT
>> I shall! Just make sure you wear a name badge!!!
>
> You'll recognise him without a badge, he's the slim, handsome one
> ........................... !  ;-)
>
> <VBG>

Tubbier than a Tubbyduff then?   ;oD

<EBG>

Cheers,
John.
John Turner - 29 Nov 2005 21:04 GMT
> Tubbier than a Tubbyduff then?   ;oD

Definitely not a Hastings line Slim Jim!  ;-)

John.
David Skipsey - 30 Nov 2005 00:56 GMT
>> Tubbier than a Tubbyduff then?   ;oD
>
> Definitely not a Hastings line Slim Jim!  ;-)
>
> John.

Oi you two - when you've finished !!!

far cop though !!!

I'll be the good looking stud muffin operating the computer (probably) !

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DAS,

All opinions are mine and mine alone
http://merseyjcn.fotopic.net/
http://www.wirralfinescale.com/
Quality modelling and no politics

Nick Gurney - 29 Nov 2005 21:33 GMT
>You'll recognise him without a badge, he's the slim, handsome one

I was going to comment on that but don't think I will bother (Peak
Forest blah blah blah)

Nick
http://www.dyserth-road.co.uk
David Skipsey - 30 Nov 2005 00:56 GMT
> I was going to comment on that but don't think I will bother (Peak
> Forest blah blah blah)

Blah blah blah .......

You and John visiting ?

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DAS,

All opinions are mine and mine alone
http://merseyjcn.fotopic.net/
http://www.wirralfinescale.com/
Quality modelling and no politics

Nick Gurney - 30 Nov 2005 08:09 GMT
>You and John visiting ?

Just me, working on Express Models stand for the weekend as usual.

Nick
http://www.dyserth-road.co.uk
David Skipsey - 30 Nov 2005 13:43 GMT
> Just me, working on Express Models stand for the weekend as usual.

I'll see you there then ....
Nick Gurney - 29 Nov 2005 21:34 GMT
>No coupling on the thunderbird,

Do they have working tail lights?

Nick
http://www.dyserth-road.co.uk
Rich Mackin - 29 Nov 2005 21:54 GMT
>>No coupling on the thunderbird,
>
> Do they have working tail lights?

Yup, working directional lights with day/night mode switch as per the
Bachmann 66, at least in the case of the FGW and Virgin 57s. Dunno about the
Freightliner one.

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Piemanlarger - 30 Nov 2005 00:56 GMT
>>>No coupling on the thunderbird,
>>
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> Bachmann 66, at least in the case of the FGW and Virgin 57s. Dunno about
> the Freightliner one.

No day night option on freightliner.
 
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