As I mainly model the Southern Region [Early BR timescale] I looked
forward to the release of the Heljan version of the Crompton. What
puzzles me is the curious green livery on the body of "Eastleigh".
Surely the white waistline (which actually seems a little thin on the
model) was carried on over the cab door and around the front of the
original? When the yellow warning panel was introduced, I remember
this as being a smaller rectangular panel below the trimline, rather
than the 'full frontal' approach. Similarly, I don't recall the cab
side window frames being painted yellow until blue livery days.
Clearly I could be wrong in this, but recent internet research seems
to bear me out so far. Is this possibly the livery was copied from a
preserved version?
John Turner - 30 Jan 2006 19:08 GMT
> As I mainly model the Southern Region [Early BR timescale] I looked
> forward to the release of the Heljan version of the Crompton. What
> puzzles me is the curious green livery on the body of "Eastleigh".
Not one for you I'm afraid, this is a modern *recreation* of BR green livery
and is not intended to depict a loco from the period you're modelling. The
name 'Eastligh' should really have given the game away - there were no named
class 33s in the pre-blue era.
John.
Nick Gurney - 30 Jan 2006 19:14 GMT
> the curious green livery on the body of "Eastleigh".
>Surely the white waistline (which actually seems a little thin on the
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>to bear me out so far. Is this possibly the livery was copied from a
>preserved version?
If I remember correctly 33008 carried two possibly 3 versions of green
from June 1986 the livery you describe was the itermediate livery
before it was changed to small yellow warning panel and continued the
white stripe around the front.
I am sure Lima released 33008 in its two versions.
Nick
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jasper_goat@yahoo.com - 30 Jan 2006 20:05 GMT
>As I mainly model the Southern Region [Early BR timescale] I looked
>forward to the release of the Heljan version of the Crompton. What
>puzzles me is the curious green livery on the body of "Eastleigh".
Thanks for the information, folks. Isn't it rather starnge that
Heljan should pick a 'one-off' hybrid livery than major on a standard
version? They're usually pretty good on pre-grouping accuracy ,
including the BR 'green period' steam locos. It seems that the 'Ghost
of Margate' hasn't been fully excorcised yet.
Hey-ho, looks like yet another airbrush job!
Keith - 30 Jan 2006 20:42 GMT
>>As I mainly model the Southern Region [Early BR timescale] I looked
>>forward to the release of the Heljan version of the Crompton. What
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>including the BR 'green period' steam locos. It seems that the 'Ghost
>of Margate' hasn't been fully excorcised yet.
So what steam locos exactly have Heljan done a good job on?
Keith
Jane Sullivan - 31 Jan 2006 08:52 GMT
>>>As I mainly model the Southern Region [Early BR timescale] I looked
>>>forward to the release of the Heljan version of the Crompton. What
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>So what steam locos exactly have Heljan done a good job on?
And what pre-nationalisation, let alone pre-grouping, stuff has Heljan
produces, let alone done a pretty good job on?
>Keith

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John Turner - 31 Jan 2006 10:02 GMT
> And what pre-nationalisation, let alone pre-grouping, stuff has Heljan
> produces, let alone done a pretty good job on?
They have done some Danish stuff, but not sure whether that qualifies?
Their O-gauge 'Hymek' is soo coooool!
John.
JMUpton2000 - 30 Jan 2006 22:51 GMT
> Hey-ho, looks like yet another airbrush job!
Be aware, the Heljan model (apart from the fact that the roof is way too
flat to live with anyway) is based upon the later versions with the modified
roof exhaust silencer and other details. If you are looking at respraying
one in the original green/small warning panel livery, be careful as to which
you choose as most green ones had the earlier roof style until the advent of
the blue era. I think there were some green ones that had their roofs
modified and retained green livery but as usual caution and consultation of
photographic evidence is advised.
The old Lima model had the earlier original style of roof detail (albeit
they got the fan grille too small - easily fixed though) but at least they
got the curvature of the roof right.
I am hoping that when (if?) Heljan do the earlier version of the 33 (and the
26/27 for that matter) it will be a new bodyshell tooling with the awful
flat roof fixed. Otherwise I may have to consider a detailed upgraded Lima
body shell on a Heljan chassis at some point.
Regards
John M Upton
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:::Jerry:::: - 30 Jan 2006 20:19 GMT
> As I mainly model the Southern Region [Early BR timescale] I looked
> forward to the release of the Heljan version of the Crompton. What
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> to bear me out so far. Is this possibly the livery was copied from a
> preserved version?
You model early BR Southern Region and have looked forward to the
Haljan 33, why?... The fact that no class 33's were named before 1979
tends to suggest that the model is of a preserved class 33 and not of
an original 1960's version...