Level xing gates query

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Mike Smith - 28 May 2006 03:02 GMT

Further to my last enquiry regarding the MR loco I have been looking at the
photo more closely - The crossing gates are unlike any I have seen before,
heavy square posts about eight feet high with a gas lamp atop each one.
There is no 'bulls-eye' and I cannot see any sign of a wheel in the signal
box (which does not have any name on it) - There is a chap in what looks
like a uniform close by the gates, perhaps they were operated by a porter.

That was in 1905 of course, by the 1970s the gates were painted white and
had a red bulls-eye in two parts in the centre.

My questions are-

1. Did BR have a standard design of crossing gate?

2. Anyone ever seen gates like those in the photo before or elsewhere?

The photo is on . . .

http://www.halevillage.org.uk/

Click on the link for Origins of Hale Civic Society

I would still like to identify the loco (although I am not sure if those are
passenger coaches or cattle vans in tow).

Regards

Mike

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wyrleybart@netscape.net - 28 May 2006 10:12 GMT

Hi Mike
Don't forget BR didn't appear until 1948 but was still heavily biased
towards the designs of the big four consistuents for the first few
years.

The engine is a bit of a strange animal. In one sense is looks a bit
LNW but the spectacle plates don't appear LNW. It is quite a short
loco, maybe an 0-4-2, or an 0-6-0. I initially thought it was something
like a Webb radial or something similar but it is too short.

Cheers
Phil

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David Jackson - 28 May 2006 10:56 GMT

The message <1148807540.312964.242090@g10g2000cwb.googlegroups.com>
from wyrleybart@netscape.net contains these words:

> The engine is a bit of a strange animal. In one sense is looks a bit
> LNW but the spectacle plates don't appear LNW. It is quite a short
> loco, maybe an 0-4-2, or an 0-6-0. I initially thought it was something
> like a Webb radial or something similar but it is too short.

I wouldn't have thought that a CLC local? train would be hauled by a
L&NWR loco. The CLC line was MR/GC/GN, and the motive power was
supplied by the Great Central (MS&L in 1904?) - hence all the "6xxxx"
numbers I collected at Northwich in the 50s, the GC locos pasing to the
LNER in 1923 and BR(E) in 1948.

Signature

Dave,
Frodsham

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kim - 28 May 2006 12:12 GMT

> Further to my last enquiry regarding the MR loco I have been looking at the
> photo more closely - The crossing gates are unlike any I have seen before,
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>
> 1. Did BR have a standard design of crossing gate?

BR's predecessors certainly didn't. There were no two of the same pattern
around here. They built whatever fit.

> 2. Anyone ever seen gates like those in the photo before or elsewhere?
>
> The photo is on . . .
>
> http://www.halevillage.org.uk/

Corrected url:-

http://www.communigate.co.uk/chesh/halecivicsociety/phpxoQpp2

(kim)

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Mike Smith - 28 May 2006 13:08 GMT

>> Further to my last enquiry regarding the MR loco I have been looking at
> the
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>
> (kim)

Cheers for that - Tried to get it but got something very wierd when I tried
right click and properties.

Mike

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