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Model Forum / General / Railroads / July 2006Great Western question....
Tomsalvé, Sorry fellahs (and fellahesses....) the aliteration wasnt meant, however... Way back when , I.K.Brunel tested one of his loco's to see (purely for fun apparently) how fast it could go running light, it seems that it reached three figures does anyone know more about this experiment? it seems that an observer was worried about meeting another loco going in the opposite direction and Brunel replied that due to their great speed they'd force the other loco off the tracks... one hopes he was being humerous... anyway I read this many years back but cant remember more or indeed where I read it 8( two other questions did the driver of the loco ala GWR stand on the right hand side of the loco? also what colour are dumb buffers? I think they might have been red but the only pic I have of them is B/W and in it they could be red or just plain filthy white....... hummmm the dumb buffers on th local museum railway (100 meters from my flat) are black and besides they are for a three swedish foot gauge railway and it uses norwegian style couplers which double as buffers so the end of line buffers are rather different to the standard guage type used in the UK, which isnt very helpful 8( the line is the Skara - Lundsbrunn Museum Järnväg for anyone interested ... the teak coaches are rather beautiful 8), its a pity noone make swedish style narrow guage steam loco's they are bigger than some british mainline loco's....and an elegant cross between British and continental styles. Thanks Beowulf >Tomsalvé, >Sorry fellahs (and fellahesses....) the aliteration wasnt meant, [quoted text clipped - 24 lines] >Thanks >Beowulf Dunno if this is the run you meant, but.... There was a run (W. A. Tuplin describes it in GWR Saints and Sinners) in the early part of the century with a Saint fresh out of the shops - Lady of Lynn or maybe Lady of Lyon where they let it rip running light to see what it would do. C. B. Collett (designer of the Castles etc 20 years later) was one of those on the footplate, as well as (forget the initial) Harrington, a locomotive inspector. They timed it with stopwatches at in excess of 120mph. Approximate corroboration came from signal box timings which showed 135mph, again approx. Salvè > >Tomsalvé, > >Sorry fellahs (and fellahesses....) the aliteration wasnt meant, [quoted text clipped - 37 lines] > corroboration came from signal box timings which showed 135mph, again > approx. That'd be the one tho I thought it was Brunel that set it in motion, unless he made 180 years old :/ Now if I can only get this e-mail thingy to work properly.... Beowulf >Salvè >> [quoted text clipped - 44 lines] >Now if I can only get this e-mail thingy to work properly.... >Beowulf My father and his brothers (all GW men) told me this same story. They gave it as a Saint ex shop down the Wootob Bassett line to Badminton. > Dunno if this is the run you meant, but.... > [quoted text clipped - 8 lines] > corroboration came from signal box timings which showed 135mph, again > approx. Sounds a lot like wishful thinking to me, not just the top speed but while running light. A few coaches, say 3 or 4 would steady the loco without being a load that would make it impossible. I'm thinking of the Race to the North with the light weight trains towards the end of the silly seasons of 1888 & 1895.  SignatureRegards Kevin Martin To reply - delete what is "not required" (Abbrev) from my address. >> Dunno if this is the run you meant, but.... >> [quoted text clipped - 14 lines] >Race to the North with the light weight trains towards the end of the >silly seasons of 1888 & 1895. Collett himself wrote to The Engineer magazine about it maybe 30 years later, which would appear to confirm it. > Sounds a lot like wishful thinking to me, not just the top speed but while > running light. A few coaches, say 3 or 4 would steady the loco without > being a load that would make it impossible. Yeah, I know what you mean. These chaps that are always going out with their Thrust-whatevers to break the land speed record, I always say to them, "you don't want to do it like that... you want something to steady the load if you're going that fast.... you should tow a nice caravan or two behind you on the Bonneville Flats... you can go much faster that way..." I mean, don't these people understand basic physics? Cheers, Steve > > Sounds a lot like wishful thinking to me, not just the top speed but while > > running light. A few coaches, say 3 or 4 would steady the loco without [quoted text clipped - 5 lines] > you're going that fast.... you should tow a nice caravan or two behind you > on the Bonneville Flats... you can go much faster that way..." This is the actual vehicle used to test the rear wheal stearing system on Thrust SSC http://roadsters.com/ssc_mini_500x167.jpg (kim) > This is the actual vehicle used to test the rear wheal stearing system on > Thrust SSC > > http://roadsters.com/ssc_mini_500x167.jpg > > (kim) Test the steering? I don't understand! I thought that *was* the Thrust SSC. That's what the dealer told me anyway, when he let me take it out for a test drive down the A3. He said SSC was short for "Super Small Car". Personally, I couldn't get more than 186 m.p.h. out of it, even when the towbar snapped and the caravan got left behind in the middle lane. But then I *am* a cautious driver! Cheers, Steve > > This is the actual vehicle used to test the rear wheal stearing system on > > Thrust SSC [quoted text clipped - 8 lines] > when he let me take it out for a test drive down the A3. He said SSC was > short for "Super Small Car". That's what passes for a "finished" vehicle in Birmingham :o) (kim) Dropping in late on this thread... Memory provoked by the original, but I couldn't answer it instantly: " it seems that an observer was worried about meeting another loco going in the opposite direction and Brunel replied that due to their great speed they'd force the other loco off the tracks... one hopes he was being humerous... anyway I read this many years back but cant remember more or indeed where I read it 8" It was Brunel to Professor Babbage of computing engine fame, when they had almost met head on, after Babbage had been instructed to take his special train out on the "wrong line"... "Brunel said in such a case he would have put on all the steam he could command, with a view to driving off the opposite engine by the superior velocity of his own." From LTC Rolt "Red for Danger" The offending driver was not Dr Dionysus Lardner, who gets mentioned in the previous section. SignatureChris Brown > Dropping in late on this thread... > [quoted text clipped - 21 lines] > -- > Chris Brown Thanks Chris for reasons I cant explain (senility?) I seem to have mixed the two stories together , the light engine story in my memory (whats left of it!) was a broad guage engine but I'm probably wrong there too :) but whatever...its still a fine acheivement . Beowulf > "Chris Brown" <chris@x-track.demon.co.uk> skrev... >> Dropping in late on this thread... [quoted text clipped - 24 lines] > (whats left of it!) was a broad guage engine but I'm probably wrong > there too :) but whatever...its still a fine acheivement . It was a long time ago, but I remember reading a C. Hamilton Ellis account of problems with head-on collisions om early railways. This is accompanied by an illustration captioned "Ladies osculating". A similar situation occurred in the film "The Wrong Box", causing Sir Ralph Richardson to be ejected from the toilet compartment where he was having a crafty smoke. SignatureMartin S. >Dropping in late on this thread... > [quoted text clipped - 18 lines] >The offending driver was not Dr Dionysus Lardner, who gets mentioned in >the previous section. Lardner was a weirdo - he made an a.s of himself over his comments about people being unable to breathe at 30mph when it should have been obvious even to him that they could still breathe in a strong wind. But in the US you can get a treatise on steam and its uses written later in life which is actually sensible. >>The offending driver was not Dr Dionysus Lardner, who gets mentioned in >>the previous section. [quoted text clipped - 4 lines] >But in the US you can get a treatise on steam and its uses written >later in life which is actually sensible. Oh yes. I have a copy of Dr Dionysus Lardner's "Steam Engine" (Fifteenth edition, of 1888) and, though the language and concepts are quite amazing, it reads as the work of someone experience and sensible. It is however centred on stationary engines, and perhaps it was with locomotives that the dear doctor let himself down. SignatureChris Brown > >Dropping in late on this thread... > > [quoted text clipped - 22 lines] > about people being unable to breathe at 30mph when it should have been > obvious even to him that they could still breathe in a strong wind. Ah yes, but supposing you were to to travel at 30mph in a strong wind? :o) (kim) >> >Dropping in late on this thread... >> > [quoted text clipped - 24 lines] > >Ah yes, but supposing you were to to travel at 30mph in a strong wind? :o) Depends whether it was a facing or trailing wind. >(kim) > Ah yes, but supposing you were to to travel at 30mph in a strong wind? :o) Are you talking about laden or unladen swallows? ;-) SignatureRegards Kevin Martin To reply - delete what is "not required" (Abbrev) from my address. |
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