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Model Forum / General / Railroads / November 2007Backscenes
I see that Photojenic have in effect ceased trading. Are there any other companies oput there that make similar backscenes i.e. photographic ones? Thanks Stu None that I know of, and it's a great pity if she has ceased trading, as I was intending ordering from her shortly. I guess that it's a fairly low-volume operation, and was certainly not low cost. Having said that, a digital camera combined with Microsoft Word will produce results (of a sort in my case I might add!!!) Keith >I see that Photojenic have in effect ceased trading. Are there any other >companies oput there that make similar backscenes i.e. photographic ones? > > Thanks > > Stu > ...............................................Having said that, a digital > camera combined with Microsoft Word will produce results (of a sort in my > case I might add!!!) So will paint and some brushes. :-) -- Cheers Roger T. Home of the Great Eastern Railway http://www.highspeedplus.com/~rogertra/ > low-volume operation, and was certainly not low cost. Having said that, a > digital camera combined with Microsoft Word will produce results (of a > sort in my case I might add!!!) It's not as easy as you might think though. I have tried taking multiple photos and printing them to use as a back-scene, but various optical effects make the joins clumsy and the perspective is all wrong for anything more than a couple of shots. I've been on the lookout for a row of terrace backs that I could photograph individually and string together as a back-scene, but so far, I haven't found a suitable place. Perhaps the answer is to do it from a train! - if you can find one where the windows can be opened. Adrian As I said, results of a sort. Still somewhat better than my attempts with paint and a brush ! >> low-volume operation, and was certainly not low cost. Having said that, a >> digital camera combined with Microsoft Word will produce results (of a [quoted text clipped - 13 lines] > > Adrian >> low-volume operation, and was certainly not low cost. Having said that, a >> digital camera combined with Microsoft Word will produce results (of a [quoted text clipped - 13 lines] > > Adrian Download a copy of Photo stitch This will make panoramas from a series of photos Best overlap by a third at the taking stage. As your unlikely to be able to print a 5 ft by 11" print your going to need to slice it up in to A4 sheets. Ah they seam to have dropped the Free edition But there is one on this months PC Adviser from Serif (actually the same one under licence) If anybody is interested I have the ablity to produce similar backscenes from your own images. Get in touch and we might be able to sort something out. Rich >None that I know of, and it's a great pity if she has ceased trading, as I >was intending ordering from her shortly. I guess that it's a fairly [quoted text clipped - 9 lines] >> >> Stu > None that I know of, and it's a great pity if she has ceased trading, as I > was intending ordering from her shortly. I guess that it's a fairly > low-volume operation, and was certainly not low cost. Having said that, a > digital camera combined with Microsoft Word will produce results (of a sort > in my case I might add!!!) [...] Use Irfanview, not MS Word. (Google it.) It's free, you can resize pictures easily, and even doctor colour, brightness etc to some extent, and it prints pictures much more nicely than MS Word. If you are willing to spend some real cash, try Adobe's Photoshop Elements. About 1/4 the price of Photoshop, but does about 80% of what Photoshop can do -- which is more than you will likely ever want to do. If you use Irfanview, send its author a donation. He's constantly upgrading the program. It's the best image viewer bar none IMO, and its moderate image processing capabilities are more than adequate for fixing up the odd problem such as red eye or underexposure when you forget that the flash doesn't reach much beyond 3m. For printed backscenes from photos, try Backdrop Warehouse in the USA. (Google 'em.) They will use your photos to custom print a backscene for you. I've noticed they now have some European scenes, so they may have something suitable. Pricey, though. Final thought: if you do decide to print your own backscenes, avoid the cheap ink-jets. Those "free" ones. Pay some real money for a multi-tank Canon or Epson, and be happy. A printer is a tool - you can't do good work with bad tools. HTH <snip> > Final thought: if you do decide to print your own backscenes, avoid the > cheap ink-jets. Those "free" ones. Pay some real money for a multi-tank > Canon or Epson, and be happy. My family run a Canon i865. It's a damn fine printer with separate cartridges for each colour (including a large black for when you're doing black-only printing). I have a feeling that specific model isn't available any more, but I'm sure there's a successor. I'll never go back to tri-colour cart's - I once went through three of them while using a Canon BJC-70 to print out a PowerPoint presentation which had an almost pure blue background. :-( > A printer is a tool - you can't do good work with bad tools. Amen. It seems to me that a lot of printer manufacturers these days are adopting the razor model - sucker them in with 'cheap' printers and coin it on the ink sales.  SignatureJades' First Encounters Site - http://www.jades.org/ffe.htm The best Frontier: First Encounters site on the Web. nospam@jades.org /is/ a real email address! ><snip> > [quoted text clipped - 10 lines] >them while using a Canon BJC-70 to print out a PowerPoint presentation >which had an almost pure blue background. :-( Isn't there an option in PowerPoint to not print the background? Id there isn't, there jolly well ought to be. >> A printer is a tool - you can't do good work with bad tools. > >Amen. It seems to me that a lot of printer manufacturers these days >are adopting the razor model - sucker them in with 'cheap' printers >and coin it on the ink sales. SignatureJane OO and DCC in the garden http://www.yddraiggoch.demon.co.uk/railway/railway.html <snip> >>I'll never go back to tri-colour cart's - I once went through three of >>them while using a Canon BJC-70 to print out a PowerPoint presentation >>which had an almost pure blue background. :-( > > Isn't there an option in PowerPoint to not print the background? Id > there isn't, there jolly well ought to be. I found that option /after/ I'd already gone through the cartridges. :-/ SignatureJades' First Encounters Site - http://www.jades.org/ffe.htm The best Frontier: First Encounters site on the Web. nospam@jades.org /is/ a real email address! ><snip> > [quoted text clipped - 7 lines] >I found that option /after/ I'd already gone through the cartridges. >:-/ Let that be a lesson to you. Always RTFM first! SignatureJane OO and DCC in the garden http://www.yddraiggoch.demon.co.uk/railway/railway.html >><snip> >> [quoted text clipped - 9 lines] >> > Let that be a lesson to you. Always RTFM first! Thats very good advice unless you need to print it first. Simon > "Jane Sullivan" <jane@yddraiggoch.demon.co.uk> wrote... >> Graham Thurlwell <nospam@jades.org> writes [quoted text clipped - 16 lines] >> > Thats very good advice unless you need to print it first. You have a valid point there! It's like those programs that give you instructions on how to install them, but only after you've installed them. SignatureMartin S. >> "Jane Sullivan" <jane@yddraiggoch.demon.co.uk> wrote... >>> Graham Thurlwell <nospam@jades.org> writes [quoted text clipped - 20 lines] > It's like those programs that give you instructions on how to install > them, but only after you've installed them. Stupidest thing I've seen recently was the key code for Silent Hunter III. It was printed on the actual DVD and wasn't repeated on anything else. A little inconvenient! SignatureJades' First Encounters Site - http://www.jades.org/ffe.htm The best Frontier: First Encounters site on the Web. nospam@jades.org /is/ a real email address! <snip> >>> Isn't there an option in PowerPoint to not print the background? Id >>> there isn't, there jolly well ought to be. [quoted text clipped - 3 lines] >> > Let that be a lesson to you. Always RTFM first! Heh! What manual? All I got was a CD in a case. ;-) SignatureJades' First Encounters Site - http://www.jades.org/ffe.htm The best Frontier: First Encounters site on the Web. nospam@jades.org /is/ a real email address! > Amen. It seems to me that a lot of printer manufacturers these days > are adopting the razor model - sucker them in with 'cheap' printers > and coin it on the ink sales. A lot of printer manufacturers ? nay, I would suggest all of the major brands. Printers are usually sold to resellers at the manufacturers cost price (or pretty darn close) - as you inferred, there is very little margin in the printers themselves. The mark-up is definitely in the replacement ink. There are some pros and cons obviously - it now costs relatively little to upgrade the hardware every 18 months or so (if you want to have the latest and greatest); and especially so if you wait till almost the end of a product run and then upgrade to the then top of the line model - you can save a lot of money on the hardware that way. I did this with my Pixma i8500 and saved a bundle. And as some one else has suggested the more separate ink tanks the better (generally) - you only need to replace the ones that have run out. To save money on ink - keep an eye out for catalogue sales - one large retailer here (Australia) frequently has 15%-20% off ink sales so I usually buy all 8 tanks in one go even if I don't really need them at the time. I have also bought sets of genuine ink on the internet - these tend to be consistently cheaper than shop bought ones - but you need to consider shipping costs of course. What about compatible ink ? Personally I stay away from them - I had one bad experience with them with a previous printer. On the otherhand, one of the printers at work which is used 16 hours a day for B/W printing uses compatible ink tanks with no discernible issues. With all printers though the more you use them the better the image will be - the heads stay cleaner. Sod's law though, the more you use them the more ink you need to buy ! Sorry for digressing. Will stop now. Cheers Mal > With all printers though the more you use them the better the image will > be - the heads stay cleaner. Sod's law though, the more you use them the > more ink you need to buy ! Since I didn't use my inkjet very often, if I didn't remember to run a test page instead the heads were always clogging up. I finally gave up and bought a laser. I couldn't afford color, but most of what printing I do doesn't need color. My advice to anyone with infrequent printing requirements would be to get a laser. SignatureIt's turtles, all the way down >> With all printers though the more you use them the better the image >> will be - the heads stay cleaner. Sod's law though, the more you use [quoted text clipped - 7 lines] > My advice to anyone with infrequent printing requirements would be to > get a laser. B&W lasers are in the same price range as decent inkjets; colour lasers cost about what inkjets did 10 years ago. SignatureMartin S. MartinS said the following on 21/08/2006 04:03: > B&W lasers are in the same price range as decent inkjets; colour lasers > cost about what inkjets did 10 years ago. A good brand second hand is even cheaper. Over a year ago I bought an old HP Laserjet 4M+ from a local seller on eBay for £23. Over a year later, and at least a full box of paper later (2500 sheets or more) it's still going strong on the original toner cartridge that came with it. That's a good deal, and has saved me a fortune in inkjet cartridges. SignaturePaul Boyd http://www.paul-boyd.co.uk/ > MartinS said the following on 21/08/2006 04:03: > [quoted text clipped - 6 lines] > still going strong on the original toner cartridge that came with it. > That's a good deal, and has saved me a fortune in inkjet cartridges. They're certainly cheaper on a per page basis, but you're comparing monochrome with colour. Dunno about cost of supplies for colour lasers. One of the inkjet printer makers advertises that you can make your own colour prints for 29 cents (Cdn) each. Heck, I send mine to Wal-Mart via internet and pick them up an hour later printed on Kodak paper by a proper photo machine, for 19 cents each! Why would I want to print my own? SignatureMartin S. >None that I know of, and it's a great pity if she has ceased trading, as I >was intending ordering from her shortly. I guess that it's a fairly [quoted text clipped - 9 lines] >> >> Stuhttp://tbbcbackdrops2004.vstore.ca/-----now intelligence direct backscenes >I see that Photojenic have in effect ceased trading. Are there any other >companies oput there that make similar backscenes i.e. photographic ones? > >Thanks > >Stu http://tbbcbackdrops2004.vstore.ca/ Hi Sue please have a look at this new range. it is being sold to the public at nec sat 1st sun 2nd Dec then into as many shops as we can. as for the £££ well photjen was far to much for most of us so i started this 5 years ago and it is now a company and production is now under way.. thanks for listening and hope to post out to you soon.. Hi Stu and all, A new company (ID Backscenes) has just developed the first in a range of photographic backscenes which is 40 foot long and 9 inches tall. It is broken up into 8 x 5 foot lengths and will be on general release from February 4th 2008, retailing between £15 - £17. It should be the first of many, all at the same or similar dimensions. (1219. 2cm x 22.86cm) It will be called "Into the Town" (Series 107) and will be previewed at the Warley National Model Railway Exhibition at the NEC in Birmingham on December 1st & 2nd. (Hall 5) Contact enquiries@intelligence-direct.com for further details. Should be interesting. Dave. |
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