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FOR SALE: Hornby Connex Surburban Train HO Gauge

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David Gillespie - 12 Aug 2006 21:30 GMT
Hey Folks

I have a  Hornby Connex Surburban Train HO Gauge for sale on Ebay. The
auction closes tomorrow at 18.30.

If you search under my id saratoga6996, you will find it.

I will have other stuff for sale in a few weeks time like a box of HO
american style TYCO trains and many wagons. I also have several other Hornby
sets I wish to get rid of.

- David
James Moody - 12 Aug 2006 22:50 GMT
> I have a  Hornby Connex Surburban Train HO Gauge for sale on Ebay. The
> auction closes tomorrow at 18.30.

Interesting, I was looking for these on ebay earlier, and didn't find
this one.

Ah, you've misspelled 'suburban', and haven't mentioned '466' or
'networker' anywhere in the text. That's why I didn't see it.

... and it's paypal only, with a starting price of £50, so I didn't miss
much. It currently (and rather unsurprisingly) has no bids. Assuming it
doesn't sell, and you decide to relist it with these constraints
removed, it's possible I may be interested...

James Moody
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Jerry - 14 Aug 2006 10:49 GMT
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> ... and it's paypal only, with a starting price of £50, so I didn't miss
> much. It currently (and rather unsurprisingly) has no bids. Assuming it
> doesn't sell, and you decide to relist it with these constraints
> removed, it's possible I may be interested...

Do you really expect that the spamming bastard will  be reading the
group?...
Paul Boyd - 14 Aug 2006 12:02 GMT
Jerry said the following on 14/08/2006 10:49:

> Do you really expect that the spamming bastard will  be reading the
> group?...

Apparently not, because he hasn't come back to thank us for all the help
we've given him in order to make his spamming^H^H^H^H selling more
successful in the future :-)

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Jane Sullivan - 13 Aug 2006 08:45 GMT
>Hey Folks
>
>I have a  Hornby Connex Surburban Train HO Gauge for sale on Ebay. The
>auction closes tomorrow at 18.30.

I hope you haven't as Hornby didn't make this set in HO, but in OO.

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Paul Boyd - 13 Aug 2006 12:54 GMT
On 13/08/2006 08:45, Jane Sullivan said,

> I hope you haven't as Hornby didn't make this set in HO, but in OO.

Along with the minor (!!) errors James pointed out, not really much hope
of selling it really, is there?

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kim - 13 Aug 2006 15:28 GMT
> >Hey Folks
> >
> >I have a  Hornby Connex Surburban Train HO Gauge for sale on Ebay. The
> >auction closes tomorrow at 18.30.
>
> I hope you haven't as Hornby didn't make this set in HO, but in OO.

He did say "HO Gauge" and not "HO Scale" which is correct :o)

(kim)
Jane Sullivan - 13 Aug 2006 19:18 GMT
>> >Hey Folks
>> >
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>
>(kim)

Yes, but so is On2½ or On3 or TTb5½ and maybe a few more, and he didn't
mention any of those. I suggest that by mentioning HO gauge he was just
confusing people.
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John Turner - 13 Aug 2006 19:33 GMT
> Yes, but so is On2½ or On3 or TTb5½ and maybe a few more, and he didn't
> mention any of those. I suggest that by mentioning HO gauge he was just
> confusing people.

Yeah if he wants to make a cock-up of his listing why should we worry?

John.
Paul Boyd - 13 Aug 2006 19:35 GMT
On 13/08/2006 19:18, Jane Sullivan said,

> Yes, but so is On2½ or On3 or TTb5½ and maybe a few more, and he didn't
> mention any of those. I suggest that by mentioning HO gauge he was just
> confusing people.

Well, all things considered, I'm sure that the wrong scale/gauge in the
description was only a minor contributory factor to the seller wasting
£1.50 on listing fees.  In the OP, he also says that it ends at 18:30
today.  If anyone had sniping in mind, they would have found that it
actually ended 5 minutes earlier!

Altogether, not a good day for the OP.  Three items all went unsold.

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Martin Wynne - 13 Aug 2006 20:29 GMT
   > He did say "H0 Gauge" and not "H0 Scale" which is correct.

No it isn't.

If by "gauge" you mean the "track gauge", i.e. the distance between
the rails, that is a linear dimension which can only be specified
in units of length. You cannot describe a track gauge as H0 mm
or H0 inches.

If by "gauge" you mean a size designation, as for example in "Standard
Wire Gauge", then "H0 Gauge" means that practice of modelling which
combines a scale of 3.5mm/ft with a track gauge of 16.5mm. As far as
I know Hornby do not make any models matching this combination, and
it is therefore NOT correct to describe them as "H0 Gauge".

They are "00 Gauge" which is a size designation which combines a
scale of 4mm/ft with a track gauge of 16.5mm. Such models may
share a common track gauge dimension with models matching the
"H0 Gauge" designation, but that does not make them "H0 Gauge".

Martin.
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John Turner - 14 Aug 2006 10:11 GMT
> If by "gauge" you mean the "track gauge", i.e. the distance between
> the rails, that is a linear dimension which can only be specified
[quoted text clipped - 6 lines]
> I know Hornby do not make any models matching this combination, and
> it is therefore NOT correct to describe them as "H0 Gauge".

And if someone is search for items in OO-scale or OO-gauge he/she wouldn't
have found them.

John.
David Gillespie - 27 Aug 2006 20:33 GMT
Hi Guys,

Im getting some abuse here, first of all ..... i don't have time to check
this newsgroup every night ............... i have things to get on with. The
week the auction was on, I kept up to date with my auction (not their was
much point) and my emails. If you have something to say then email me, it
seems you all have pleanty to say, but no balls to say it to my face.

If I want to start my auction at £50.00, then I will. Lets face it, I own it
and I paid good money for it, so i am not going to give it away. . I
probably will post it again on ebay with a lower price ( and correctly
describe it), no good sitting in my wardrobe doing nothing. If it sells it
sells, if it doesn't then it doesn't .................... but life
continues.

Fair enough I got the scale wrong, then I am a muppet. I do apreciate you
guys mentioning this, but again if you just had emailed me to confirm the
scale and any other issues you had then I would of responded with answers
and gratitude for bringing this my attention.

As for using this newgroup for spaming, get bent. I checked the rules for
this newsgroup and you are allowed to advertise on this newsgroup aslong you
put FOR SALE in the subject line. I have to admit I have used other
newsgroup to search for items I wish to purchase, and find it very useful as
long as it done properly.

Going to post this message on the newgroup, but you all are going to get a
copy of it as well.

- david

> Hey Folks
>
[quoted text clipped - 8 lines]
>
> - David
James Moody - 27 Aug 2006 22:53 GMT
> Im getting some abuse here, first of all ..... i don't have time to check
> this newsgroup every night ............... i have things to get on with. The
> week the auction was on, I kept up to date with my auction (not their was
> much point) and my emails. If you have something to say then email me, it
> seems you all have pleanty to say, but no balls to say it to my face.

Newsgroups such as this one are a venue for public discussion. If you've
posted to a newsgroup, you can expect people to reply - and to reply *to
the group*, as you posted *to the group*. Same as an email list (where
people reply to the list by convention) and a web forum (where people
reply within the forum thread by convention).

This is *more* public, and requires *more* "balls" than to email you
privately, as more people are going to read it.

Also, you never stated you wanted any replies by email. (Though then
again, maybe you weren't expecting any replies.)

> If I want to start my auction at £50.00, then I will.

Yup, that is your right. It is also your right not to sell your item,
should you not wish to.

> Lets face it, I own it
> and I paid good money for it, so i am not going to give it away.

Of course not. The whole purpose of an Auction is to extract the maximum
the market will pay - but setting the starting price beyond the level
where even one person is willing to put in a bid means your item won't sell.

James Moody
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David Gillespie - 28 Aug 2006 08:30 GMT
all fair remarks.To be honest your original remarks where helpful, after I
signed on last night and continued to read everyone elses remarks, just got
me roused.

- david

>> Im getting some abuse here, first of all ..... i don't have time to check
>> this newsgroup every night ............... i have things to get on with.
[quoted text clipped - 29 lines]
>
> James Moody
Jane Sullivan - 28 Aug 2006 12:03 GMT
>all fair remarks.To be honest your original remarks where helpful, after I
>signed on last night and continued to read everyone elses remarks, just got
>me roused.
>
>- david

Perhaps some of us might have more sympathy for you if you were to join
in the discussions and post here regularly.

Also, you do not endear yourself to folks by saying "I know my rights
and you can't stop me". As far as I am concerned, someone who hasn't
posted here before who suddenly pops up advertising an auction on ebay,
is a spammer, whether or not the group's charter allows you to do so.
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Paul Boyd - 28 Aug 2006 14:04 GMT
On 27/08/2006 20:33, David Gillespie said,

> Going to post this message on the newgroup, but you all are going to get a
> copy of it as well.

That's what the group is for, but I doubt many people will actually get
an emailed copy.  This is a public forum, therefore all comments are
made public.  It is not usual to contact a poster privately to continue
the discussion - this is not good etiquette unless the poster
specifically says it's OK.  You didn't.  Many people don't use real
email addresses here to avoid spam - those that do often use throwaway
addresses such as hotmail, yahoo or msn.

As for not having the balls, if you look you'll see that most, if not
all, of the responses came from people who are not hiding behind an
alias, and are making comments in their own name, for all to see.
Surely that takes more balls (in your terminology) than direct email.
I'm assuming you didn't mean face to face literally, as you forgot to
include your postal address.

Your very first post on this group (that I could find) was advertising
something for sale.  Then you disappeared.  This is a discussion group,
so if you start a discussion, as you did, it is common courtesy to
participate.  Had you done so, you will have seen some comments *before*
your auction ended - you could then have changed your auction to help
with your sale.  You could have changed the title for a start, which
means that it would have come up in searches.

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