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Blimey, layout with a free house on eBay.....

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Andy Hewitt - 30 Apr 2008 21:51 GMT
http://cgi.ebay.co.uk/00-gauge-complete-model-railway-layout-house-scotl
and_W0QQitemZ220229384356QQihZ012QQcategoryZ101163QQssPageNameZWDVWQQrdZ
1QQcmdZViewItem

Any takers?

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kim - 30 Apr 2008 23:05 GMT
> http://cgi.ebay.co.uk/00-gauge-complete-model-railway-layout-house-scotl
> and_W0QQitemZ220229384356QQihZ012QQcategoryZ101163QQssPageNameZWDVWQQrdZ
> 1QQcmdZViewItem
>
> Any takers?

Interesting post but the seller is an idiot. A prospective purchaser will
take one look at the house and think "how many thousands will it cost me to
get rid of all that junk".

(kim)
John Turner - 30 Apr 2008 23:17 GMT
> Interesting post but the seller is an idiot. A prospective purchaser will
> take one look at the house and think "how many thousands will it cost me
> to get rid of all that junk".

Agreed, a friend told me that he was considering doing some thing similar,
but I told him he's be severely restricting his potential market.  He'd be
better off scrapping & clearing the layout and selling off the individual
components.

John.
Andy Hewitt - 30 Apr 2008 23:18 GMT
> > http://cgi.ebay.co.uk/00-gauge-complete-model-railway-layout-house-scotl
> > and_W0QQitemZ220229384356QQihZ012QQcategoryZ101163QQssPageNameZWDVWQQrdZ
[quoted text clipped - 5 lines]
> take one look at the house and think "how many thousands will it cost me to
> get rid of all that junk".

I guess it depends on the person that buys. If they get someone
interested in the track, it could be worth a punt.

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intercityman2000@yahoo.co.uk - 01 May 2008 10:09 GMT
Good bit of advertising for him, the page has crashed!  :-))

>http://cgi.ebay.co.uk/00-gauge-complete-model-railway-layout-house-scotl
>and_W0QQitemZ220229384356QQihZ012QQcategoryZ101163QQssPageNameZWDVWQQrdZ
>1QQcmdZViewItem
>
>Any takers?
beamendsltd - 01 May 2008 12:04 GMT
> Good bit of advertising for him, the page has crashed!  :-))
>
[quoted text clipped - 3 lines]
> >
> >Any takers?

Check the link above has wrapped properly - the page was ok just now
but I had to edit the URL to join it up properly.

Cheers
Richard

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Paul Boyd - 01 May 2008 12:31 GMT
beamendsltd said the following on 01/05/2008 12:30:

> Check the link above has wrapped properly - the page was ok just now
> but I had to edit the URL to join it up properly.

This is what tinyurl is for:- http://tinyurl.com/6g6cx8

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:Jerry: - 01 May 2008 12:41 GMT
> beamendsltd said the following on 01/05/2008 12:30:
>
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>
> This is what tinyurl is for:- http://tinyurl.com/

Only for those who don't understand how to use a text editor (such as
Notepad) though and who don't mind trusting someone else not to send
them off to a site that one would not wish to visit... What is so
difficult in copying the full URL to a text editor and then
'unwrapping' the line breaks?
manatbandq@hotmail.com - 01 May 2008 12:54 GMT
> > beamendsltd said the following on 01/05/2008 12:30:
>
[quoted text clipped - 6 lines]
> Only for those who [snip] don't mind trusting someone else not to send
> them off to a site that one would not wish to visit

That's what tinyurl's preview option is for http://preview.tinyurl.com/6g6cx8
it doesn't send you off anywhere without you clicking on the full
link.

What's so difficult about that?

MBQ
:Jerry: - 01 May 2008 13:10 GMT
On May 1, 12:41 pm, ":Jerry:" <INVA...@INVALID.INVALID> wrote:
> "Paul Boyd" <usenet.is.worse@plusnet> wrote in message
>
[quoted text clipped - 11 lines]
> send
> them off to a site that one would not wish to visit

That's what tinyurl's preview option is for
http://preview.tinyurl.com/6g6cx8
it doesn't send you off anywhere without you clicking on the full
link.

What's so difficult about that?
</quote>

Because people don't use it, the 'tiny' URL that Paul gave was
forwarded without preview, as is obvious by the different URLs. Duh...
manatbandq@hotmail.com - 01 May 2008 13:50 GMT
> <manatba...@hotmail.com> wrote in message
>
[quoted text clipped - 25 lines]
>
> Because people don't use it,

If it's panto you want "Oh yes they do!".

> the 'tiny' URL that Paul gave was
> forwarded without preview, as is obvious by the different URLs. Duh...

That's why I gave the alternative. Duh yourself...

MBQ
:Jerry: - 01 May 2008 14:06 GMT
That's why I gave the alternative. Duh yourself...

MBQ
</quote>

So why didn't you reply to Paul's message then... It's f*cking obvious
that your intension was to try and troll yet again.
manatbandq@hotmail.com - 01 May 2008 14:19 GMT
> <manatba...@hotmail.com> wrote in message
>
[quoted text clipped - 6 lines]
>
> So why didn't you reply to Paul's message then

Because YOU were the one who brought up the subject of possibly being
directed to unknown websites. The reply was relevant to YOUR post. I'm
sure Paul is intelligent enough to take on board what I said, if he
chooses.

> ... It's f*cking obvious
> that your intension was to try and troll yet again.

No. I made a perfectly valid and reasonable point that there is a way
of using TinyURL that allows you to verify the link you are being sent
to. You couldn't accept that and had to come back with "Duh...". I'm
not sure what you were trying to say, but now you are sweaing and
accusing me of trolling. As I've said before, :Jerry:, look to
yourself before calling others.

MBQ
Paul Boyd - 01 May 2008 14:30 GMT
manatbandq@hotmail.com said the following on 01/05/2008 14:19:

> Because YOU were the one who brought up the subject of possibly being
> directed to unknown websites. The reply was relevant to YOUR post. I'm
> sure Paul is intelligent enough to take on board what I said, if he
> chooses.

Personally, I get pissed off when I click on the preview button and then
have to click again to go to where you want to go.  By the time I posted
the tinyurl link, it was apparent from regular (and trusted) posters on
this group that the link was safe, so I saw no need for the
preview.tinyurl version.  I am aware of its existence.

If Lily Lee from Acme Model Railway Co in Xiang-Tu wanted our esteemed
presence on her website, and posted a tinyurl link without the preview
button, I wouldn't touch it with someone else's bargepole.

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:Jerry: - 01 May 2008 14:53 GMT
<snip>

> Personally, I get pissed off when I click on the preview button and
> then have to click again to go to where you want to go.  By the time
> I posted the tinyurl link, it was apparent from regular (and
> trusted) posters on this group that the link was safe, so I saw no
> need for the preview.tinyurl version.  I am aware of its existence.

It's not the true URL that is being questioned but what someone sends
as a 'tiny' URL, how do 'we' know that the person posting the 'tiny'
link are not sending us to w~.tinygirls.pervertsRus.com or
w~.bankaccountsRus.com - or more to the point, someone pretending to
be a respected contributor, how many people are going to check the
headers?!...
Paul Boyd - 01 May 2008 15:43 GMT
:Jerry: said the following on 01/05/2008 14:53:

> It's not the true URL that is being questioned but what someone sends
> as a 'tiny' URL..

I realise that....

> or more to the point, someone pretending to
> be a respected contributor, how many people are going to check the
> headers?!...

...but there is that point!

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:Jerry: - 01 May 2008 14:47 GMT
On May 1, 2:06 pm, ":Jerry:" <INVA...@INVALID.INVALID> wrote:
> <manatba...@hotmail.com> wrote in message
>
[quoted text clipped - 6 lines]
>
> So why didn't you reply to Paul's message then

Because YOU were the one who brought up the subject of possibly being
directed to unknown websites. The reply was relevant to YOUR post. I'm
sure Paul is intelligent enough to take on board what I said, if he
chooses.
</quote>

My reply was relevant to Paul's message, you reply was relevant to
Paul's massage and not mine as I was commenting on what Paul put in
his message - and my point still stands in the context of the thread,
yours doesn't.

<quote>
t's f*cking obvious
> that your intension was to try and troll yet again.

No. I made a perfectly valid and reasonable point
</quote>

It's not the point you made but the where and how you made it.
manatbandq@hotmail.com - 01 May 2008 15:18 GMT
> <manatba...@hotmail.com> wrote in message
>
[quoted text clipped - 32 lines]
>
> It's not the point you made but the where and how you made it.

So what exactly was wrong with the where? It was in context about
TinyURL being used in a way that did not dump you in a dodgy place.

What exactly was wrong with how I made it? Apart from your dislike for
users of Google Grouops. Sorry if I'm blunt, that's just the way I am.
I didn't use any bad language or call anyone names (at least not in
the original reply). I aped your style, the "what's so difficult..."
just to highlight how silly you were being.

MBQ
crazyh0rse1@hotmail.com - 01 May 2008 14:24 GMT
<manatba...@hotmail.com> wrote in message

> So why didn't you reply to Paul's message then... It's f*cking obvious
> that your intension was to try and troll yet again.

Ha, ha.

Some people just never get irony.
:Jerry: - 01 May 2008 14:54 GMT
> <manatba...@hotmail.com> wrote in message
>
[quoted text clipped - 5 lines]
>
> Some people just never get irony.

I get irony very well, but I also know who are the trolls on Usenet,
and I can assure you that MBQ is a troll.
manatbandq@hotmail.com - 01 May 2008 15:21 GMT
> <crazyh0r...@hotmail.com> wrote in message
>
[quoted text clipped - 12 lines]
> I get irony very well, but I also know who are the trolls on Usenet,
> and I can assure you that MBQ is a troll.

ROTFLMAO!

trit-trot, trit-trot went the little billy goat gruff.

GRRRRRRRRRR! Who's that crossing my bridge?
:Jerry: - 01 May 2008 15:38 GMT
On May 1, 2:54 pm, ":Jerry:" <INVA...@INVALID.INVALID> wrote:
<snip>

> I get irony very well, but I also know who are the trolls on Usenet,
> and I can assure you that MBQ is a troll.

ROTFLMAO!
<snip>

news:985716a0-2f04-4464-a113-a263d3895780@a70g2000hsh.googlegroups.com
manatbandq@hotmail.com - 01 May 2008 16:48 GMT
> <manatba...@hotmail.com> wrote in message
>
[quoted text clipped - 9 lines]
>
> news:985716a0-2f04-4464-a113-a263d3895780@a70g2000hsh.googlegroups.com

I may occasionally indulge in something akin to trolling, but I assure
you I am no troll.

MBQ
:Jerry: - 01 May 2008 17:04 GMT
On May 1, 3:38 pm, ":Jerry:" <INVA...@INVALID.INVALID> wrote:
> <manatba...@hotmail.com> wrote in message
>
[quoted text clipped - 9 lines]
>
> news:985716a0-2f04-4464-a113-a263d3895780@a70g2000hsh.googlegroups.com

I may occasionally indulge in something akin to trolling, but I assure
you I am no troll.

</quote>

That is a matter of opinion, the facts go before you...
simon - 02 May 2008 20:48 GMT
On May 1, 3:38 pm, ":Jerry:" <INVA...@INVALID.INVALID> wrote:
> <manatba...@hotmail.com> wrote in message
>
[quoted text clipped - 8 lines]
>
> news:985716a0-2f04-4464-a113-a263d3895780@a70g2000hsh.googlegroups.com

I may occasionally indulge in something akin to trolling, but I assure
you I am no troll.

MBQ

Do we interpret that as "when is 'not a troll'  'a troll' - when indulging
in something akin to trolling ?

Cheers,
Simon
manatbandq@hotmail.com - 07 May 2008 15:53 GMT
> <manatba...@hotmail.com> wrote in message
>
[quoted text clipped - 26 lines]
> Because people don't use it, the 'tiny' URL that Paul gave was
> forwarded without preview, as is obvious by the different URLs. Duh...

Just realized you can also visit the tinyurl site and enable preview
mode. This sets a cookie on your machine so that *every* tinyurl you
click on takes you to the preview, even if it was not generated as a
preview link.

HTH

MBQ
Andy Hewitt - 01 May 2008 14:25 GMT
:Jerry: <INVALID@INVALID.INVALID> wrote:

> > beamendsltd said the following on 01/05/2008 12:30:
> >
[quoted text clipped - 9 lines]
> difficult in copying the full URL to a text editor and then
> 'unwrapping' the line breaks?

Talk about make it so hard for yourselves. No wonder it takes so long to
get a model layout made!

Select the text, copy and paste it into the URL bar in your browser.
Robert is yer fathers sibling.

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Paul Boyd - 01 May 2008 14:45 GMT
Andy Hewitt said the following on 01/05/2008 14:25:

> Select the text, copy and paste it into the URL bar in your browser.
> Robert is yer fathers sibling.

Actually, because of the way you posted it broken across several lines,
it has to be reassembled in a browser's URL bar, which I think Internet
Explorer has trouble with (older versions, certainly).  If you'd posted
it with < > brackets around it, there would be no issue because people's
readers would interpret the whole lot as a single URL.

<http://cgi.ebay.co.uk/00-gauge-complete-model-railway-layout-house-scotland_W0QQ
itemZ220229384356QQihZ012QQcategoryZ101163QQssPageNameZWDVWQQrdZ1QQcmdZViewItem
>

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Andy Hewitt - 01 May 2008 14:55 GMT
> Andy Hewitt said the following on 01/05/2008 14:25:
>
[quoted text clipped - 6 lines]
> it with < > brackets around it, there would be no issue because people's
> readers would interpret the whole lot as a single URL.

Oh, I see. It worked fine in Apple Safari, but I'm not able to test it
otherwise (other than Firefox). Besides, if it works, I wouldn't have
gone testing it anymore.

><http://cgi.ebay.co.uk/00-gauge-complete-model-railway-layout-house-scotland_W0QQ
itemZ220229384356QQihZ012QQcategoryZ101163QQssPageNameZWDVWQQr
dZ1QQcmdZViewItem>

Yes, I'd forgotten about using the <> symbols, some applications are OK
picking up the http:// bit.

You forget all this when things 'just work'.

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:Jerry: - 01 May 2008 15:02 GMT
<snip>

> Talk about make it so hard for yourselves. No wonder it takes so
> long to
> get a model layout made!
>
> Select the text, copy and paste it into the URL bar in your browser.
> Robert is yer fathers sibling.

Andy, you forget that most will be using Micro$oft, the line wrap(s)
gets lost if pasted straight to the URL bar...
Andy Hewitt - 01 May 2008 17:57 GMT
:Jerry: <INVALID@INVALID.INVALID> wrote:

> <snip>
> >
[quoted text clipped - 7 lines]
> Andy, you forget that most will be using Micro$oft, the line wrap(s)
> gets lost if pasted straight to the URL bar...

Yes, you'll see my later reply shows that. Thanks.

I spend a lot of my time trying to filter out the garbage that MS files
have in them when trying to edit the church magazine.

Anyway, not wishing to go down that path.......

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Sailor - 02 May 2008 11:29 GMT
> In message <1v1j149q8go0cpo1ie0cvh3rbmfa4cj...@4ax.com>
>           intercityman2...@yahoo.co.uk wrote:
[quoted text clipped - 15 lines]
> --www.beamends-lrspares.co.uk      sa...@beamends-lrspares.co.uk
>               I have become... comfortably numb

Typing the first few words into eBay "search" facility would save an
aweful lot of trouble --- if you were really interested!
Regards
 
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