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Toys of Yesteryear :-(

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Dragon Heart - 27 May 2008 03:26 GMT
On Bank Holiday Monday we visited the "Toys of Yesteryear" exhibition
at the

Peak Village Outlet
Chatsworth Road
Rowsley
Derbyshire
DE4 2NP

Just off the A6 between Bakewell & Matlock

http://www.toysofyesteryear.co.uk/index.html

Entrance to the museum was £3 for adults and £2 for our son.

In our opinion it was NOT good value for money !

The museum was quite small and dark.

The model railway only had one working loco.

It would have been good for the children to have a photo sitting in
the full size model of Chitty Chitty Bang Bang but it was roped off.

Done better going to Peak Rail just down the road,  they I understand
have a large model layout ?
Brian Watson - 27 May 2008 07:17 GMT
On Bank Holiday Monday we visited the "Toys of Yesteryear" exhibition
at the

Peak Village Outlet
Chatsworth Road
Rowsley
Derbyshire
DE4 2NP

Just off the A6 between Bakewell & Matlock

> http://www.toysofyesteryear.co.uk/index.html

> Entrance to the museum was £3 for adults and £2 for our son.

> In our opinion it was NOT good value for money !

> The museum was quite small and dark.

> The model railway only had one working loco.

> It would have been good for the children to have a photo sitting in
the full size model of Chitty Chitty Bang Bang but it was roped off.

Probably to stop 'erberts damaging the thing.

You ask a lot for the price of a cup of tea and a cake.

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"Fight like the Devil, die like a gentleman."

John Turner - 27 May 2008 08:23 GMT
> You ask a lot for the price of a cup of tea and a cake.

I expect value for money, if the OP didn't feel he got that, then it's too
expensive.

I once visited Steamtown at Carnforth, and fel I'd been totally ripped off -
it was expensive and there was very little to see or photograph.  I never
went again, and not long after it closed as a visitor attraction.

John.

John.
Christopher A. Lee - 27 May 2008 08:54 GMT
>> You ask a lot for the price of a cup of tea and a cake.
>
[quoted text clipped - 4 lines]
>it was expensive and there was very little to see or photograph.  I never
>went again, and not long after it closed as a visitor attraction.

Once upon a time it was good. But there was a fatal accident (on the
15"gauge AFAIR) and all of a sudden they tightened up where you could
and couldn't go.
John Turner - 27 May 2008 09:00 GMT
> Once upon a time it was good. But there was a fatal accident (on the
> 15"gauge AFAIR) and all of a sudden they tightened up where you could
> and couldn't go.

I don't recall any restriction on where you could go, (although there may
have been inside the shed itself because of the parlous state of the
concrete roof beams - not sure) but there was only about three steam locos
on site and all were tucked away inside the shed.

It was very poor and rather expensive.  They insisted on charging for my
wife who only wanted to remain in the car in their car park.

John.
Brian Watson - 27 May 2008 19:24 GMT
>> You ask a lot for the price of a cup of tea and a cake.
>
> I expect value for money, if the OP didn't feel he got that, then it's too
> expensive.

That doesn't follow.

It may be too expensive *for him*, but that's not the same thing.

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beamendsltd - 27 May 2008 13:05 GMT
> On Bank Holiday Monday we visited the "Toys of Yesteryear" exhibition
> at the
[quoted text clipped - 23 lines]
>
> You ask a lot for the price of a cup of tea and a cake.

We used to to Peak Village Outlet a lot (to get Yankee Candles, but
then the snob running the candle shop made a "witty" remark about
smelling of smoke, so now go elsewhere). The toy shop used to be
quite good, but has now gone distcinctly non-railway. The Toys Of
Yesteryear is best viewed by standing at the end of counter and
looking in. A pound or two would be ok for entry, possibly.....

If you want to see some real "toys of yesteryear" go to Les Oaks's
emporium in Cheadle, Staffs. Apart from the wierd and wonderful
outside, there is an upstairs stuffed with old stuff, including
many toys like Triang pedal cars, original Tonkas, Victorian prams
etc - very spooky. You might have to ask for the key. Not a lot of
railway stuff though - but it's free! (Caravan/campng site over
the road at Hales Hall, a bit Chav Tastic but not too bad) All the
buldings (no planning permission!) incorporate old archtecture Les
took a fancy too. As he used to say - "You are entering a fools
paradise". There's currently a couple of complete church door and
window arches if you fancy a folly in the back garden! TV people
go there looking for period props etc.

Cheers
Richard

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Dragon Heart - 27 May 2008 17:48 GMT
I copied my original message to Steve Fulford @ Toys Of Yesteryear and
this is the reply I received :-

"  After 4 years this is the ONLY complaint - how strange. Our
visitors comment
book is proof of thousands of very satisfied visitors, many make
return
visits.
I must assume that you were expecting some other form of attraction -
not
thousands of vintage toys including moving pelham puppet display, full
size
replica of Chitty Chitty Bang Bang, (health & safety prevent children
climbing into Chitty) the largest Dinky military Vehicle display in
the UK,
'50 years of Corgi' display going back to their Mettoy days, plus
many
other rare and unique exhibits.
So if you would like to contact me I will happily refund your
admission fees
so that you can put this towards another day out. (must be lots of
choice
for £3 & £2)!!! And by the way, Peak Rail does NOT have a model
railway  "
and this is my reply

'thousands of vintage toys' most left in their boxes

'moving pelham puppet display' which needed another 10p to operate

'full size replica of Chitty Chitty Bang Bang, (health & safety
prevent children climbing into Chitty)' but your promotional leaflet
says "Have your picture taken with our life size model of CCBB", it
also shows two children in the car.

Your leaflet also refers to your "extensive and working Hornby 'OO'
railway layout" 'extensive' of great extent; wide; broad OR covering
or extending over a great area OR far-reaching; comprehensive;
thorough OR great in amount, number, or degree @ about only 3' x 4' it
was non of those and 'working' ? only just, with one loco.

You assume that we were expecting some other form of attraction ? YES
we were expecting a museum full of Toys of Yesteryear on display. What
has upset us is that our son was VERY disappointed.

 Chris
simon - 27 May 2008 23:26 GMT
I copied my original message to Steve Fulford @ Toys Of Yesteryear and
this is the reply I received :-

"  After 4 years this is the ONLY complaint - how strange. ....<snip> full
size
replica of Chitty Chitty Bang Bang, (health & safety prevent children
climbing into Chitty)...."

Strange that, am sure Disneyland Paris has a similar looking model that tots
are allowed to climb into. It has no company supervisors.

The real one from the film goes to Shackerstone family festival, with a
fellow that was in the film.

"<snip>
(must be lots of choice for £3 & £2)!!!
..<snip>"
Oh look do we detect PR wit or sarcasm ?

....
You assume that we were expecting some other form of attraction ? YES
we were expecting a museum full of Toys of Yesteryear on display. What
has upset us is that our son was VERY disappointed.

 Chris

we went to see Thomas TT at loughborough and had a great day out - thanks to
other visitors and the staff at the GCR - didnt detect any added value from
HIT !

Cheers,
Simon
Dragon Heart - 28 May 2008 01:05 GMT
Yes the staff @ Loughborough do appear to get into the spirit of these
events as do those at Ruddington.

Our son especially likes the lady with the 'dog' @ Loughborough.

Many of the staff at these heritage railway sites are volunteers,
those at model rail clubs simply enjoy showing you their hobby skills
( well most of them ) I think that's what makes the difference.

I found this a good site for reference http://ukhrail.uel.ac.uk/

The chap from Toys of Yesteryear is right they're are not many
attractions for £3 and £2 but that's not the point.  We spent £22 on
the entrance fees at the National Tramway Museum last year but that
gave us access for one full year except for 'special events'.  You
could spend £40,  £50,  £80 on a day out and it still be value for
money.

Our son's autism is a good indicator to see if he's enjoyed himself.
If he has he complains and gets upset when we have to leave .... not
one murmur on Monday when we left Toys of Yesteryear.

Am I expecting too much for £8 ?  I don't think so,  we may have been
'spoilt' by other more attractive attractions but even though Toys of
Yesteryear did bring back some fond childhood memories ( and not so
fond .... does anyone remember the 'Johnny Severn' One Man Army Gun
http://www.doyouremember.co.uk/memory.php?memID=3343  my mate had one
but my parents could not afford one ).

As a footnote HIT Entertainment are probably a dirty word @ most
heritage railway sites !
Arthur Figgis - 27 May 2008 17:40 GMT
> On Bank Holiday Monday we visited the "Toys of Yesteryear" exhibition
> at the
[quoted text clipped - 23 lines]
>
> You ask a lot for the price of a cup of tea and a cake.

The other day I paid a quid for a cup of tea and a cake at a windmill
open day in Sussex.

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John Turner - 27 May 2008 18:50 GMT
> The other day I paid a quid for a cup of tea and a cake at a windmill open
> day in Sussex.

Free in my shop for regulars!  :-)

John.
Arthur Figgis - 27 May 2008 23:07 GMT
>> The other day I paid a quid for a cup of tea and a cake at a windmill open
>> day in Sussex.
>
> Free in my shop for regulars!  :-)

Does "once a year when I go back Hull (unless I go to York like last
year 'cos Anlaby still hadn't dried out)" count :-)

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simon - 27 May 2008 23:16 GMT
>>> The other day I paid a quid for a cup of tea and a cake at a windmill
>>> open day in Sussex.
[quoted text clipped - 3 lines]
> Does "once a year when I go back Hull (unless I go to York like last year
> 'cos Anlaby still hadn't dried out)" count :-)

What about the email order customers - how about a bit of cake and a tea bag
in the parcel ?

Cheers,
Simon
beamendsltd - 28 May 2008 09:50 GMT
> >>> The other day I paid a quid for a cup of tea and a cake at a windmill
> >>> open day in Sussex.
[quoted text clipped - 6 lines]
> What about the email order customers - how about a bit of cake and a tea bag
> in the parcel ?

When I first started out I used to have "Pop in for a brew, but bring
coffee as we always run out" on the web site.

The number of people who turned up with coffee, tea and/or sugar (and
even mugs) got embarassing so I took it off....

I didn't think of cake - buggerit!

> Cheers,
> Simon

Cheers
Richard

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John Turner - 28 May 2008 18:07 GMT
> What about the email order customers - how about a bit of cake and a tea
> bag in the parcel ?

So you want soggy trains then Simon?  ;-)

John.
simon - 29 May 2008 00:21 GMT
>> What about the email order customers - how about a bit of cake and a tea
>> bag in the parcel ?
>
> So you want soggy trains then Simon?  ;-)
>
> John.
Does your Good Lady know what youre saying about her cake ?

Cheers,
Simon
John Turner - 29 May 2008 08:50 GMT
> Does your Good Lady know what youre saying about her cake ?

She's free to read this newsgroup!  ;-)

I can't remember the last time she did cakes.

Johm
John Turner - 28 May 2008 18:06 GMT
> Does "once a year when I go back Hull (unless I go to York like last year
> 'cos Anlaby still hadn't dried out)" count :-)

LOL - yes, but you're so regular you'll need to remind me who you are?  ;-)

John.
Dragon Heart - 30 May 2008 20:13 GMT
LOL - yes, but you're so regular you'll need to remind me who you
are?  ;-)

So you'll be sending a fig cake ?     (regular / figs) :-))))))

Sorry

Chris
Chris Wilson - 30 May 2008 02:45 GMT
>> The other day I paid a quid for a cup of tea and a cake at a windmill
>> open day in Sussex.
>
> Free in my shop for regulars!  :-)
>
> John.

Does that include mail order? :-)
(Once a year is regular <g>)

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Keith W - 27 May 2008 21:01 GMT
>> On Bank Holiday Monday we visited the "Toys of Yesteryear" exhibition
>> at the
[quoted text clipped - 26 lines]
> The other day I paid a quid for a cup of tea and a cake at a windmill open
> day in Sussex.

Now don't that take you back, I can just see John Pertwee, "cup o' tea and a
slice o' cake for ol' Worzel".
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