dave.rogers@yahoo.com said the following on 03/07/2008 14:24:
> While I'm sure the Backwoods kits build into beautiful models and
> several people here clearly don't like white metal kits, I find the
> Chivers Finelines kits quick and easy to build and quite appropriate
> as a first venture into 009 for the less experienced.
Oh yeah - I forgot Chivers. I haven't built any of their narrow gauge
kits, but the Wantage Tramway loco kit I have built goes together nicely
(again, photos on my website). The problem with many white-metal kits
is that they are mis-shapen lumps. For instance, I have the Langley
"Prince" kit and quite frankly I should have returned it as not being
fit for the purpose for which it was sold.
As far as chassis goes, Branchlines do the "Hawk" 0-4-0 chassis that is
vaguely Hunslet-based and will go nicely with the Chivers Hunslet locos
- this is a far more practical proposition than trying to find the flaky
Ibertren chassis, and is simpler to build than a Backwoods chassis, I
believe.

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dave.rogers@yahoo.com - 03 Jul 2008 19:24 GMT
> Oh yeah - I forgot Chivers. I haven't built any of their narrow gauge
> kits, but the Wantage Tramway loco kit I have built goes together nicely
> (again, photos on my website). The problem with many white-metal kits
> is that they are mis-shapen lumps. For instance, I have the Langley
> "Prince" kit and quite frankly I should have returned it as not being
> fit for the purpose for which it was sold.
I've built a few Chivers kits, and they all fit together well, build
easily and look like the loco they're supposed to represent; the
problems I've had are with Bachmann chassis, which seem to be about as
durable as cream cheese. The GEM kit of Dennis is a beauty, very
chunky and businesslike, and it fits on a Grafar chassis with no
modifications. The Peco Glyn Valley tram looks fine too, although it
needs the chassis cut up a bit more. Rodney Stenning's Corris No. 3 is
a very nicely made hybrid white metal and brass kit, but again it
needs a small 0-4-0 chassis. Overall there are plenty of fully
acceptable white metal kits out there; so far I've been lucky enough
not to get lumbered with any of the bad ones.
Dave
Arthur Figgis - 03 Jul 2008 21:22 GMT
>> Oh yeah - I forgot Chivers. I haven't built any of their narrow gauge
>> kits, but the Wantage Tramway loco kit I have built goes together nicely
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> acceptable white metal kits out there; so far I've been lucky enough
> not to get lumbered with any of the bad ones.
There seems to be a demand for a cheap and half-decent 0-4-0 chassis
which is actually obtainable and works fairly well - something like an
N-scale version of the Hornby pugs which power so many 7 mm scale narrow
gauge locos.

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