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Graham Harrison - 18 Sep 2008 18:16 GMT
Athearn are introducing Bombardier Coach and Cab cars in various liveries;
Model Junction in Slough is offering advance reservations.   The one I'm
interested in is Caltrain.   The announcement says they will also be
offering an F59PHi in the same colours (although the commuter bit of
Caltrain down the peninsular doesn't use that specific loco to haul the Baby
Bullets that the Bombardiers are usually used for it does use similar
looking MPI locos and Caltrain does use F59PHi locos elsewhere so the
resulting train is not strictly accurate).

Anyway....

The F59PHi is listed as DCC ready which is fine except that I fancy fitting
it with sound.   I believe the F59PHi is an existing model that they are
simply producing with new liveries.   Anyone know if there is space in the
body for sound?
John Turner - 18 Sep 2008 22:37 GMT
Maybe you should note this:-

Charter of uk.rec.models.rail

Courtesy of http://www.ukrecmodelsrail.co.uk/index.php

uk.rec.models.rail is an unmoderated newsgroup for the discussion of
railway model making, including conventional railways, tramways,
industrial, narrow-gauge, trams, and monorails. Content should be
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   Modelling prototypes which operated within the UK
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   UK model making scales and standards
   UK model railway clubs and societies
   UK model railway publications (books and periodicals).
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   UK prototype issues which affect modelling
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Discussion is open for all aspects of UK model railways, be they
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Graham Harrison - 18 Sep 2008 22:44 GMT
> Maybe you should note this:-
>
[quoted text clipped - 50 lines]
> Binaries are not permitted on this group, however references to
> FTP-able material and Web URL's are welcomed.

I take it, then, I'm the straw that broke the back of the Camel?   We've had
Garrats and Sentinels in S. America and even more off topic How do I make my
Ukrainian model go like a train.

Still, point taken and wrist slap duly noted.
Just zis Guy, you know? - 18 Sep 2008 23:07 GMT
>even more off topic How do I make my
>Ukrainian model go like a train.

Yeah, but that was /funny/.

Guy
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John Turner - 19 Sep 2008 17:54 GMT
> I take it, then, I'm the straw that broke the back of the Camel?   We've
> had Garrats and Sentinels in S. America and even more off topic How do I
> make my Ukrainian model go like a train.

Garratts (note spelling) & Sentinels were UK built and are on-topic.

Cross-posting is also regarded as SPAM.

John.
Edgar Warnecke - 20 Sep 2008 22:27 GMT
Am Fri, 19 Sep 2008 17:54:14 +0100 schrieb John Turner:

>> I take it, then, I'm the straw that broke the back of the Camel?   We've
>> had Garrats and Sentinels in S. America and even more off topic How do I
>> make my Ukrainian model go like a train.
>
> Garratts (note spelling) & Sentinels were UK built and are on-topic.

...and I hope I will be able to setup one or two of it (depends on price
and budget and v.v.) on my future layout.

Model-railways are not very common in Paraguay.

Regards

   Edgar
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Arthur Figgis - 20 Sep 2008 23:50 GMT
> I take it, then, I'm the straw that broke the back of the Camel?   We've
> had Garrats and Sentinels in S. America and even more off topic How do I
> make my Ukrainian model go like a train.

But if you'd actually read it you'd have seen that the Ukrainian aspect
wasn't relevant, other than that it made a good subject line. It was a
question about UK availability of motor bogies for use by a UK modeller
on a layout in the UK; and one answer was Toby, which is about as
British as you can get.

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Just zis Guy, you know? - 20 Sep 2008 23:56 GMT
>But if you'd actually read it you'd have seen that the Ukrainian aspect
>wasn't relevant, other than that it made a good subject line. It was a
>question about UK availability of motor bogies for use by a UK modeller
>on a layout in the UK; and one answer was Toby, which is about as
>British as you can get.

Plus the subject line was chortlemungous.

Guy
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Zen83237 - 19 Sep 2008 19:30 GMT
> Maybe you should note this:-
>
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> Binaries are not permitted on this group, however references to
> FTP-able material and Web URL's are welcomed.

I see that this newsgroup is dieing so I would have thought that anything
that livens it up a bit is worth while.
How much longer can it survive.
Why not just have model railways in the uk.
Kevin
John Turner - 20 Sep 2008 12:23 GMT
> I see that this newsgroup is dieing

Dying eh?  The number of posts here have remained fairly consistent over the
past ten years that I've used the group, but things do move on and an awful
lot of postings do go to forums these days.

> Why not just have model railways in the uk.

Why not start a fresh group if that's what you want?

If I want to read about Athearn (and I do have a strong interest in HO-scale
US outline) then I'd just go to the appropriate newsgroup.

John.

John.
Zen83237 - 22 Sep 2008 20:29 GMT
>> I see that this newsgroup is dieing
>
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>
> John.
Are you serious. A few years ago there were lots of postings. I log on very
occasionally now and there just a few tired old threads with hardly any new
ones.

Kevin
John Turner - 23 Sep 2008 08:15 GMT
> Are you serious. A few years ago there were lots of postings. I log on
> very occasionally now and there just a few tired old threads with hardly
> any new ones.

In that case maybe they've all been put off by off-topic postings?

John.
simon - 23 Sep 2008 23:29 GMT
>> Are you serious. A few years ago there were lots of postings. I log on
>> very occasionally now and there just a few tired old threads with hardly
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>
> John.
Having looked at a few other forums they all seem either too cliquey (?) or
of low real content.
Prefer quality to quantity.

There are also some old bods who are very knowledgable here that dont appear
to have to many axes to grind. Not me though, am far too young.

Cheers,
Simon
Zen83237 - 24 Sep 2008 20:31 GMT
>> Are you serious. A few years ago there were lots of postings. I log on
>> very occasionally now and there just a few tired old threads with hardly
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>
> John.
Your taking the piss again.

Kevin
John Turner - 24 Sep 2008 23:16 GMT
> Your taking the piss again.

Probably!  ;-)

John.
Nigel Cliffe - 23 Sep 2008 15:35 GMT
>> Maybe you should note this:-
>>
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> anything that livens it up a bit is worth while.
> How much longer can it survive.

Most usenet groups are in decline. The growth is in blogs and various web
based discussion forum.

> Why not just have model railways in the uk.

You're welcome to submit a change to the charter through the relevant
channels. The process is well documented.  However, I doubt it would have
much affect on the traffic levels.

The original charter reflected traffic and groups at the time it was
written; there were rec.** groups which dealt primarily with US models and
various others suited to European models.

- Nigel  (writer of the group's current charter).

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Paul Stevenson - 24 Sep 2008 20:43 GMT
>>> Maybe you should note this:-
>>>
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>
> - Nigel  (writer of the group's current charter).

Nigel,

how does it differ from the original charter?

Paul, one of the three original charter writers.
Nigel Cliffe - 25 Sep 2008 09:04 GMT
>> The original charter reflected traffic and groups at the time it was
>> written; there were rec.** groups which dealt primarily with US
[quoted text clipped - 5 lines]
>
> Paul, one of the three original charter writers.

I'm not aware of any changes to the version used in creating the group.

- Nigel

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MartinS - 18 Sep 2008 22:40 GMT
> Athearn are introducing Bombardier Coach and Cab cars in various
> liveries; Model Junction in Slough is offering advance reservations.  
[quoted text clipped - 11 lines]
> that they are simply producing with new liveries.   Anyone know if
> there is space in the body for sound?

The F59PHI is also available in GO Transit (Toronto) colours, although
GO's new locos are MP40s, with some EMD components. The original F59PH was
designed by GO and built by EMD.

Incidentally, the locos sell for $80 (£40) and the highly-detailed bi-
level Bombardier coaches for around $30 (£15). The F59PHI can pull 14 of
these (GO will be using 12).

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