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Sailor - 23 Sep 2008 13:06 GMT
Could one of the more informed chaps indicate which version of " City
of Leeds" was used in the Hornby set:
" Mid-Day Scot "please?

Regards    Peter A
John Turner - 23 Sep 2008 17:49 GMT
> Could one of the more informed chaps indicate which version of " City
> of Leeds" was used in the Hornby set:
> " Mid-Day Scot "please?

'The Mid-Day Scot' was a  train pack (no track/controller) not a train set?

Catalogue number was R2078 and the loco was in BR maroon livery & numbered
46248.  It was a tender drive model produced in 1998 from the 1977 tooling.
2,000 models were allegedly manufactured.

John.
Sailor - 24 Sep 2008 10:06 GMT
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> John.

Thanks John, that makes perfect sense now!    As usual paid too much
but it runs nicely after I replaced the tyres and cleaned it
electrically and lubed it up.  I had never come across tyres which had
perished to a fossil like state!    I do so wish that it were easier
to find info about the 1990 - 2000  Hornby era.

Peter A
John Turner - 24 Sep 2008 11:58 GMT
> I do so wish that it were easier to find info about the 1990 - 2000
> Hornby era.

It's all available in Ramsey's British Model Trains Catalogue compiled by
Pat Hammond and published by Warners Group Publications plc.

It's not 100% accurate, but it is an indispensable guide to UK models, and
also give (a somewhat inflated) guide to retail prices.

John.
John Turner - 24 Sep 2008 12:14 GMT
> As usual paid too much but it runs nicely after I replaced the tyres and
> cleaned it electrically and lubed it up.

Checked on eBay and it looks like you've paid GBP46.00 for the loco.  I'd
suggest that is at the very top-end of what I would consider to be a
reasonable price for an unboxed (pre super-detailed) tender-drive 'Duchess'
class locos.  Had I been selling it in my shop it would probably have been
priced in the range GBP35-40.

John.
Sailor - 24 Sep 2008 16:23 GMT
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> John.

Spot on as usual!        I agree with your pricing and I admit to a
soft spot for the tender drives -  a good one rates excellent and the
rest crap.  I have three good ones. When I  bid for this PC it was
having had data suggesting it to be super-D  ---  Google throws up
several suggestions which in fact were misleading.

Peter A
MartinS - 24 Sep 2008 19:34 GMT
>> "Sailor"  wrote
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> having had data suggesting it to be super-D  ---  Google throws up
> several suggestions which in fact were misleading.

Recently my tender-drive A1 Flying Scotsman started making funny noises,
even when not moving. On unclipping the tender body (easier then getting
at loco drives!), I found that the pinion had come loose from the motor
shaft. A quick cleanup of excess oil and a spot of Krazy Glue and it was
as good as new - well, almost. The brushes are pretty worn; I have some
spares somewhere, but I can't find them.

BTW, I see that at least some of the Railroad range have loco drive.

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Martin S.

simon - 24 Sep 2008 23:59 GMT
> BTW, I see that at least some of the Railroad range have loco drive.

including the 9F, which am still determined to get.

Cheers,
Simon
simon - 24 Sep 2008 23:35 GMT
On 24 sep, 13:14, "John Turner" <nos...@nospam.invalid> wrote:
> "Sailor" wrote
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> John.

Spot on as usual!        I agree with your pricing and I admit to a
soft spot for the tender drives -  a good one rates excellent and the
rest crap.  I have three good ones. When I  bid for this PC it was
having had data suggesting it to be super-D  ---  Google throws up
several suggestions which in fact were misleading.

Peter A

Dont have problem with tender drives as such, but the 4F and 2P motors sound
bit toy like - anything that can be done to change that - apart from
re-motor or put a sound chip in the loco ?

Dont buy a super-detailed loco drive Duchess else youll hate the tender
drive. These SD's run as smooth as anything and run with a low growling
sound that just oozes power - yep do get quite excited.

Cheers,
Simon
Sailor - 25 Sep 2008 09:07 GMT
> On 24 sep, 13:14, "John Turner" <nos...@nospam.invalid> wrote:
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> Cheers,
> Simon

Well actually --  I do have a 4F & a 2P (having grown up with them
almost in the front yard) and a Princess  Royal ( 5 pole super D)
which is rather nice and runs very nicely after additional ballast was
added.   I am quite happy with Leeds as it is a substitute for my
first ever  00 Hornby D of Atholl in 1949.   I recently bought a C of
Bristol in unknown condition which should be a super D as I don't
believe that there was a blue tender  drive version!

Things tend to be on hold at the moment as having contemplated n gauge
(and rejected it) decided to go through the wall into the empty 2/3
rds of the grenier. This rapidly escalated into " what about the 2nd
loo?" and " all that for your trains!" So my days pass constructing
walls, ceilings, lights, power & plumbing in order to get a little
more space (6m x 2.5M). Of course being that much nearer to the roof I
can now see the tile lattes that are on their way out and must be
fixed. This is known as retirement.

( I ordered the catalogue last evening).

Regards

Peter A
 
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