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Roger Mitchell - 24 Sep 2008 21:46 GMT

Hi
Can anybody tell me if any of the LMS Royal Scot class loco's ever had the
blue livery during the BR days. If they did which loco's ran in it. Many
thanks for any info Roger

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John Turner - 24 Sep 2008 23:14 GMT

> Can anybody tell me if any of the LMS Royal Scot class loco's ever had the
> blue livery during the BR days. If they did which loco's ran in it.

I don't think so, or at least I've never seen any reference to same. My
understanding was the blue livery was reserved for the top-link (Pacific)
locos of the day.

John.

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Thorodin - 24 Sep 2008 23:29 GMT

Some non 'pacific' locos of the Great Western Railway, such as the Kings ran
in blue livery.

> Hi
> Can anybody tell me if any of the LMS Royal Scot class loco's ever had the
> blue livery during the BR days. If they did which loco's ran in it. Many
> thanks for any info Roger

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John Turner - 25 Sep 2008 16:23 GMT

> Some non 'pacific' locos of the Great Western Railway, such as the Kings
> ran in blue livery.

The Kings were the largest express locos on BR(WR) and therefore qualified
for blue livery. I don't believe any other 4-6-0s were so treated, although
one or two Black 5s carried 'experimental' liveries but I can recall whether
any of these were blue - I suspect not!

John.

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David Costigan - 25 Sep 2008 20:57 GMT

> > Some non 'pacific' locos of the Great Western Railway, such as the Kings
> > ran in blue livery.
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>
> John.

I think some of the ex-GWR "Castles" may have also appeared in blue; apart
from them and the "Kings" the only engines that I have ever seen evidence of
having been painted blue were Pacifics. These include both ex-LMS classes,
most - if not all - of the ex-LNER designs, but only the "Merchant Navy"
class of the ex-SR.

Hope this helps,

David Costigan

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Graham Thurlwell - 27 Sep 2008 20:52 GMT

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> I think some of the ex-GWR "Castles" may have also appeared in blue; apart
> from them and the "Kings" the only engines that I have ever seen evidence of
> having been painted blue were Pacifics. These include both ex-LMS classes,
> most - if not all - of the ex-LNER designs

According to RCTS Locomotives of the LNER Part 2A:-

BR Blue, then BR Green
Gresley A10 (Reclassified from A1 by Thompson)
Gresley A3 (except 60070 Gladiateur [sic] & 60076 Galopin)
Gresley A4
Thompson A1/1 (rebuilt Great Northern)
Peppercorn A1

Straight to BR green
Gresley A3 (60070 Gladiateur & 60076 Galopin only)
Thompson A2/1 (developed from V2)
Thompson A2/2 (rebuilt P2s)
Thompson A2/3 (newbuilds)
Peppercorn A2

The Raven A2s were all gone by the end of 1934 so of course never
received BR livery.

HTH

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simon - 25 Sep 2008 23:27 GMT

>> Some non 'pacific' locos of the Great Western Railway, such as the Kings
>> ran in blue livery.
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>
> John.

ES Cox - Black 5's were lined up in various greens :- LNER, GWR and
Malachite Southern. Not sure if they ran in these though.
Sir Frank Ree ran in LNER green for a while, most upsetting - have the
mainline version of it.

Cheers,
Simon

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John Turner - 26 Sep 2008 08:49 GMT

> ES Cox - Black 5's were lined up in various greens :- LNER, GWR and
> Malachite Southern. Not sure if they ran in these though.

I think there was a 'grey' one too. I've certainly seen a picture of one of
these (LNER green I think) at one of the London termini.

John.

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Roger Mitchell - 26 Sep 2008 10:19 GMT

Many thanks everybody for all the info on the Royal Scots. WHEN I have
completed my loco I will not be finishing it in a blue livery.

>>> Some non 'pacific' locos of the Great Western Railway, such as the Kings
>>> ran in blue livery.
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> Cheers,
> Simon

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