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BRM Show at Peterborough

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John - 23 Oct 2008 14:55 GMT
Had several customers in my shop this week who went to the BRM Show at
Peterborough last weekend.

Without exception all claimed the show was rubbish and that the trade
support was equally poor.  A pretty universal exception was they thought the
7mm scale 'Vine Street' layout was very, very good.

Did anyone on here go, and if so have you any comments?

John.
misc - 23 Oct 2008 15:26 GMT
I went and came out after two hours, The was the usual boring DVDs
everywhere and a gobby trader selling cheep plastic injection DMU kits at
over inflated prices that dont even come with motors. lets face it they were
around £30.00 where as cambrian, Slaters, Ratio Wills etc are all less than
£ 10.00, plus you can use any glue not just ABS Butanone adhesive, Not
impressed is one way to describe the show and the traders, Layouts were fine
though.
Misc
> Had several customers in my shop this week who went to the BRM Show at
> Peterborough last weekend.
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> John.
Dragon Heart - 24 Oct 2008 04:15 GMT
> I went and came out after two hours, The was the usual boring DVDs
> everywhere and a gobby trader selling cheep plastic injection DMU kits at
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Did not visit the show  ( good job by the sounds of it ) but we have
seen and admired the mid 1960's based 'Vine Street'.  Bit of artistic
licence used but a nice layout to watch operating.

http://www.redditch-mrc.com/Redditch%20Show%20layouts.htm

I have to have a bit of sympathy for some traders after overhearing at
several shows what they are having to pay for their stand.  I recall
at one show a couple of simple trestle tables in the open air were
costing them £40 each for the weekend.

My son & I always enjoy layouts with plenty of tunnels,  bridges and
viaducts.

Chris
Lester Caine - 24 Oct 2008 07:25 GMT
> Did not visit the show  ( good job by the sounds of it ) but we have
> seen and admired the mid 1960's based 'Vine Street'.  Bit of artistic
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> at one show a couple of simple trestle tables in the open air were
> costing them £40 each for the weekend.

WHERE? I'm paying £400 for a small area and some of the the shows I should
attend but simply can't justify are £1000 :(
But even with these shows some of the show organisers are getting too greedy
and big traders are staying away .... and 'extra' shows are appearing in the
calendar which compete with the more established ones.

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Chris - 24 Oct 2008 17:06 GMT
>> I went and came out after two hours, The was the usual boring DVDs
>> everywhere and a gobby trader selling cheep plastic injection DMU kits at
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> Chris
Traders always have to pay when I was in a club these were used to pay
overnight accommodation for the layout operators with entrance covering
venue hire and layout transport costs. Probably why there is such a high
proportion of traders at Warley for instance, not cheap to hire I would
imagine.

Chris
damduck-egg@yahoo.co.uk - 24 Oct 2008 17:58 GMT
>> I have to have a bit of sympathy for some traders after overhearing at
>> several shows what they are having to pay for their stand.  I recall
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>> Chris

>Traders always have to pay when I was in a club these were used to pay
>overnight accommodation for the layout operators with entrance covering
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>Chris

Often the reason I go to a larger show is more to peruse the trade
stands rather than to see layouts. Fine as many of these are I prefer
smaller local shows for looking at them as being less crowded and
having fewer layouts  time can be spent looking at the smaller
details.
Must be difficult for a Trader to decide which ones to attend
especially the middle ground shows in Cities which sit between Warley
at one end and a village show at the other. Must be very unpredictable
what business you may get. Only needs a clash of dates with a large
sporting event in the town or some bad roadworks to keep potential
visitors away.  I cannot be alone in feeling sorry for some poor
trader who having given up a weekend and traveled miles is sat at
their stand looking dejected as nobody is interested in their wares.

G.Harman
Dragon Heart - 25 Oct 2008 02:08 GMT
There is one trader who attends several of our 'local' shows who
appears to do great business on new stock at full RRP yet another who
sells a great deal of nice, good quality 2nd hand stuff at reasonable
prices hardly gets a customer.

Now I know some people are a little put off by 2nd hand and feel they
have a better come back if there is a problem but I have not found
that to be the case in most instances.

You do get some traders attempting to dump old or rough stock onto the
inexperienced but most are OK.

A 'good sales show' will depend on a great deal of things like :-

Location
Parking
Are the local team @ home
Past experience
Good / bad advertising
Type of customer
Weather

The old saying of 'priced to sell' however does come to mind as I
think many people come to these shows with the 'Sunday Market'
mentality and expect a bargain ......... but then again don't we
all :-)

Chris
 
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