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Jane Sullivan - 23 Oct 2008 19:07 GMT Test
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manatbandq@hotmail.com - 23 Oct 2008 19:43 GMT On Oct 23, 7:07 pm, Jane Sullivan <spamt...@yddraiggoch.demon.co.uk> wrote:
> Test Sorry, it failed.
Mike Hughes - 25 Oct 2008 13:54 GMT >Test Jane
Are you having trouble getting news from Demon? I've had nothing of any note for over two weeks now. Is it time to consider changing ISP's after all these years?
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Paul Boyd - 25 Oct 2008 16:20 GMT On 25/10/2008 13:54, Mike Hughes said,
> Are you having trouble getting news from Demon? I've had nothing of any > note for over two weeks now. Is it time to consider changing ISP's after > all these years? At work I collect news from Demon,and there are loads of missing posts - I know that because my own ISP is Zen, and there are actually loads of posts. If my ISP was Demon I would be well p***ed off.
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Keith W - 25 Oct 2008 18:36 GMT > On 25/10/2008 13:54, Mike Hughes said, > [quoted text clipped - 5 lines] > know that because my own ISP is Zen, and there are actually loads of > posts. If my ISP was Demon I would be well p***ed off. Rather than change ISP, I can heartily recommend the free text only news server news.albasani.net. Good retention and I don't seem to lose anything. You sign up here http://albasani.net/index.html.en .
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Just zis Guy, you know? - 25 Oct 2008 19:04 GMT >Rather than change ISP, I can heartily recommend the free text only news >server news.albasani.net. Good retention and I don't seem to lose >anything. You sign up here http://albasani.net/index.html.en . Or news.motzarella.org which is also free and good.
Guy
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Jerry - 25 Oct 2008 23:20 GMT <snip>
> Or news.motzarella.org which is also free and good. I'll second that.
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Keith W - 26 Oct 2008 14:22 GMT > <snip> >> >> Or news.motzarella.org which is also free and good. > > I'll second that. I tried Motzarella before Albasani and I have found that the latter has a greater retention period. Other than that there is little to choose between them.
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Jerry - 26 Oct 2008 15:19 GMT >> <snip> >>> [quoted text clipped - 5 lines] > has a greater retention period. Other than that there is little to > choose between them. Other than for binary groups I really don't see much point in high retention, most discussions are either topical or very 'conversion like' - who would going into a pub and try to restart a month old conversation?... If you want to check on who said what etc. weeks after the event that is were Google comes into play, and dare I say what Google groups should only be used for.
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John - 26 Oct 2008 11:34 GMT > Rather than change ISP, I can heartily recommend the free text only news > server news.albasani.net. Good retention and I don't seem to lose > anything. You sign up here http://albasani.net/index.html.en . I pay a very modest annual subscription to Supernews which also allows access to binary groups. Well worth paying for the railway images available on alt.binaries.pictures.rail - especially if you like American prototypes.
John.
MartinS - 26 Oct 2008 17:44 GMT >> Rather than change ISP, I can heartily recommend the free text only >> news server news.albasani.net. Good retention and I don't seem to [quoted text clipped - 4 lines] > available on alt.binaries.pictures.rail - especially if you like > American prototypes. Several NSPs sell non-expiring blocks from $2 up, for occasional binary users. You only pay for the bandwidth you use, and posting is unlimited. I use Usenet-News - http://www.usenet-news.net.
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MartinS - 25 Oct 2008 21:47 GMT > Jane Sullivan <spamtrap@yddraiggoch.demon.co.uk> writes >>Test [quoted text clipped - 3 lines] > note for over two weeks now. Is it time to consider changing ISP's after > all these years? So, Demon has finally gone to hell?
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Tim Illingworth - 25 Oct 2008 22:38 GMT >>Test >Jane > >Are you having trouble getting news from Demon? I've had nothing of any >note for over two weeks now. Is it time to consider changing ISP's after >all these years? Some things never go out of fashion:
C: Never mind that, my lad. I wish to complain about this news server what I paid to access not half an hour ago at this very boutique. G: Oh yes, the, uh, the Norwegian Blue...What's,uh...What's wrong with it? C: I'll tell you what's wrong with it, my lad. It's dead, that's what's wrong with it! G: No, no, it's uh,...it's just busy. C: Look, matey, I know a dead news server when I see one, and I'm looking at one right now. G: No no it's not dead, it's, it's busy'! Remarkable server, the Norwegian Blue, idn'it, ay? Beautiful processors! C: The processors don't enter into it. It's stone dead.
http://everything2.com/e2node/The%2520dead%2520news%2520server%2520sketch
Tim formerly tim@smof.demon.co.uk
MartinS - 26 Oct 2008 05:55 GMT >> Jane Sullivan <spamtrap@yddraiggoch.demon.co.uk> writes >> [quoted text clipped - 23 lines] > Tim > formerly tim@smof.demon.co.uk LOL!
"It's not easy to pad these python files out to 200 lines, you know."
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Trev - 26 Oct 2008 11:14 GMT >>> Jane Sullivan <spamtrap@yddraiggoch.demon.co.uk> writes >>> [quoted text clipped - 27 lines] > > "It's not easy to pad these python files out to 200 lines, you know." Not like when I where a lad we Had to get Half an hour afore we went to bed. Get t'coat on and Leave. Not afore wid licked road clean mind.
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kim - 26 Oct 2008 23:43 GMT >>>> Jane Sullivan <spamtrap@yddraiggoch.demon.co.uk> writes >>>> [quoted text clipped - 32 lines] > to bed. Get t'coat on and Leave. > Not afore wid licked road clean mind. [pedant]That wasn't Monty Python[/pedant]
(kim)
MartinS - 27 Oct 2008 00:32 GMT >> <me@my.place> MartinS bashed on keyboard and typed: >>>>> Jane Sullivan <spamtrap@yddraiggoch.demon.co.uk> writes [quoted text clipped - 35 lines] > > [pedant]That wasn't Monty Python[/pedant] At Last the 1948 Show.
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Trev - 27 Oct 2008 10:06 GMT > Not like when I where a lad we Had to get Half an hour afore we went >>> to bed. Get t'coat on and Leave. [quoted text clipped - 3 lines] > > At Last the 1948 Show. But also on Python stage concerts but without Marty
MartinS - 27 Oct 2008 20:44 GMT > "MartinS" <me@my.place> wrote... >> Not like when I where a lad we Had to get Half an hour afore we went [quoted text clipped - 6 lines] >> > But also on Python stage concerts but without Marty No Tim Brooke-Taylor, either.
http://www.boreme.com/boreme/funny-2007/four-yorkshiremen-sketch-p1.php
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Nigel Cliffe - 26 Oct 2008 14:34 GMT >> Test > Jane > > Are you having trouble getting news from Demon? I've had nothing of > any note for over two weeks now. Is it time to consider changing > ISP's after all these years? The Demon specific newsgroups have had weeks of posts about the Demon news-server being broken. Obvious conclusion is that Demon consider it a low priority to restore a proper service.
So, need to look elsewhere. Others have given lists of free services (I use one of them). Alternative is the 10-Euro a year "news.individual.net" service.
If you were paying Demon because of their news servers, I'd look at alternatives such as IDNet, Zen, etc.. They might not all offer news servers (see above for that solution), but currently seem to offer better ISP services.
- Nigel (an ex-Demon customer, how happily using IDNet who are a lot better)
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kim - 26 Oct 2008 22:55 GMT >>> Test >> Jane [quoted text clipped - 18 lines] > - Nigel (an ex-Demon customer, how happily using IDNet who are a lot > better) Welcome back Nigel!
I say "welcome back" because my newsreader and/or/newsserver has been blocking your posts for as long as I can remember and for no good reason that I could think of? There's a couple of other posters here being blocked as well. I can only read replies to their posts and not the originals.
(kim).
intercityman2000@yahoo.co.uk - 27 Oct 2008 15:42 GMT And I thought it was just me.
>>Test >Jane > >Are you having trouble getting news from Demon? I've had nothing of any >note for over two weeks now. Is it time to consider changing ISP's after >all these years? Jane Sullivan - 27 Oct 2008 19:47 GMT Crumbs! The only message in this thread that I received was my own one and the one I am replying to. I need to talk to Demon to find out what is happening with their news feed.
>And I thought it was just me. > [quoted text clipped - 4 lines] >>note for over two weeks now. Is it time to consider changing ISP's after >>all these years?
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Mike Hughes - 28 Oct 2008 10:28 GMT >Crumbs! The only message in this thread that I received was my own one >and the one I am replying to. I need to talk to Demon to find out what >is happening with their news feed. Jane
I think that the Demon staff are well aware of the problem but do not seem to have an answer. When I spoke to them the 'tech' guy muttered something about 'working with a third party'. I was sent a customer survey which I filled in with several Level 1 ticks (the lowest).
It seems like we need a lot of people to complain but whether or not they can fix the problem remains to be seen
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Mike Hughes - 27 Oct 2008 21:41 GMT >And I thought it was just me. There are quite a few people affected. I contacted Demon on Monday morning, eventually ending up talking to a 'tech' guy who sent me a Demon Customer Survey e-mail which I've duly completed showing my displeasure - there were a few 1 out of 10 scores from me.
I got the impression that, although he couldn't say it, the tech guy was just as p***ed off as the rest of us. It seems that Demon are working with a third party on this issue, Whether this is before after the recent loss of news I couldn't establish.
Hope this one gets out to the wide world. Try and post a reply, even if it's just a 'me too' so that we can see if anything is getting through.
>>>Test >>Jane >> >>Are you having trouble getting news from Demon? I've had nothing of any >>note for over two weeks now. Is it time to consider changing ISP's after >>all these years?
 Signature Mike Hughes A Taxi driver licensed for London and Brighton at home in Tarring, West Sussex, England Interested in American trains real and model? Look here http://mikehughes627.fotopic.net/
John Turner - 27 Oct 2008 22:45 GMT > Hope this one gets out to the wide world. Try and post a reply, even if > it's just a 'me too' so that we can see if anything is getting through. Gotcha!
John.
Christopher A. Lee - 27 Oct 2008 22:49 GMT >Hope this one gets out to the wide world. Try and post a reply, even if >it's just a 'me too' so that we can see if anything is getting through. I got it.
If it's a "me too" then.....
Me too.
Paul Boyd - 28 Oct 2008 08:24 GMT Mike Hughes said the following on 27/10/2008 20:41:
> Hope this one gets out to the wide world. Try and post a reply, even if > it's just a 'me too' so that we can see if anything is getting through. <AOL> Me too! </AOL> (Well, at work, anyway. I wouldn't touch Demon with a bargepole at home.)
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me@michael-gooden.info - 26 Oct 2008 19:42 GMT On Oct 23, 8:07 pm, Jane Sullivan <spamt...@yddraiggoch.demon.co.uk> wrote:
> Test > -- > Jane > British OO, American and Australian HO, and DCC in the gardenhttp://www.yddraiggoch.demon.co.uk/railway/railway.html Yep, test definitely failed! -- Michael Gooden Model Train Enthusiast http://oomodeltrains.hmmetro.net
intercityman2000@yahoo.co.uk - 28 Oct 2008 13:50 GMT Just spoke to Demon about this. The techy finally admitted that they have had a problem with their news server for 1 1/2 months and that it will be some weeks before the problem is resolved. They are having a new server with a third party ?? but it is still not ready yet.
When I asked about a rebate for loss of service, I was told that when the service resumes to contact them regarding compensation as a large number of their customers have already asked this question.
Nice of them to let us know isn't it!
Regards.
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