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Model Forum / General / Railroads / November 2008Hornby HST - DCC Ready or DCC fitted?
Hi All, I really like the look of the Blue and Grey Hornby HST that has just been released. I've had HST's since the 70's, but they aren't a patch on these! I have a bit of dilemma, should I go for the DCC ready or the DCC fitted? I have no DCC gear at all yet, but there is only £12 difference between the two at Hattons. I guess I should also ask whether the Hornby DCC decoder is any good or not? Thanks, Richard > I have a bit of dilemma, should I go for the DCC ready or the DCC fitted? DCC ready - if you're using analogue then you'll get better running qualities without the DCC decoder. > I have no DCC gear at all yet, but there is only £12 difference between > the two at Hattons. A standard Hornby decoder is only a tenner, so why pay £12 for one - or does the DCC fitted version have TWO decoders? John. <snip> > A standard Hornby decoder is only a tenner, so why pay £12 for one - > or does the DCC fitted version have TWO decoders? Hmm, so one is paying a couple of quid to have the decoder fitted by the factory *before* the body is fitted, I suspect that many people will be happy to pay the extra just so they don't need to take any risks in removing the body even if they are competent to do so.  SignatureWikipedia: the Internet equivalent of Hyde Park and 'speakers corner'... > <snip> > [quoted text clipped - 5 lines] > will be happy to pay the extra just so they don't need to take any > risks in removing the body even if they are competent to do so. But they'll have to do that anyway when they realise how poor the Hornby decoder is. MBQ On Nov 14, 10:20 pm, "Jerry" <INVA...@INVALID.INVALID> wrote: > "John Turner" <nos...@nospam.invalid> wrote in message > [quoted text clipped - 9 lines] > will be happy to pay the extra just so they don't need to take any > risks in removing the body even if they are competent to do so. But they'll have to do that anyway when they realise how poor the Hornby decoder is. MBQ Do keep up, presume this is the new very good one :-) Cheers, Simon > Hi All, > [quoted text clipped - 8 lines] > between the two at Hattons. I guess I should also ask whether the > Hornby DCC decoder is any good or not? Do they go round first or second radius curves? ;-) BTW if anyone's into bit torrent, TheBox has all the railway videos broadcast recently on BBC4, and many more. I just downloaded a video of a cab ride on a Eurostar, filmed in 2004 when only Stage 1 of the CTRL was in operation. Fawkham Junction to Waterloo International on 750V DC at a leisurely pace is most interesting. I was able to become a member at http://thebox.bz with no problem; they frequently clear out dead wood. SignatureMartin S. >> Hi All, >> [quoted text clipped - 18 lines] > a member at http://thebox.bz with no problem; they frequently clear > out dead wood. A friend records *everything* off BBC4 (whether I want it or not) then posts it to me on DVD, often with a matching disc label and cover! One of the best programmes he sent me was "Monsoon Railway" which I've not been able to find anywhere else. I'd kill for a download of Channel 5's "Monster Moves" featuring the Scottish steam loco. (kim) I'd kill for a download of Channel 5's "Monster Moves" > featuring the Scottish steam loco. > > (kim) Hamlet ? Cheers, Simon > >> Hi All, > [quoted text clipped - 28 lines] > > - Show quoted text - Monster Moves: Long Locomotive Try http://hk.youtube.com/watch?v=hlTISVynSbA for about 6 minutes worth. Chris >> >> I really like the look of the Blue and Grey Hornby HST that has >> >> just been released. I've had HST's since the 70's, but they [quoted text clipped - 28 lines] > Try http://hk.youtube.com/watch?v=hlTISVynSbA for about 6 minutes > worth. Awww, it's only a 4-8-2, not a Bayer-Garratt or a Big Boy. ;-) SignatureMartin S. >>>> Hi All, >> [quoted text clipped - 34 lines] > Try http://hk.youtube.com/watch?v=hlTISVynSbA for about 6 minutes > worth. Got that version in MP4 with stereo sound! (kim) > >> Hi All, > [quoted text clipped - 28 lines] > > - Show quoted text - The series was produced by a British company called :- Windfall Films 1 Underwood Row London N1 7LZ Tel: +44 (0) 20 7251 7676 Fax: +44 (0) 20 7253 8468 E-mail: postmaster@windfallfilms.com http://www.windfallfilms.com/productions/production-details/monster-moves_s3_p3.html As Martin S said 'The Box' does have many videos ripped off the TV as does btjunkie.org http://btjunkie.org/torrent/Monster-Moves-s03e03-Long-Locomotive-18-Mar-2008-TVR ip-XviD/52023879b09dc1e1c12b3e2e800ae374ee33665ef582 Chris >> A friend records *everything* off BBC4 (whether I want it or not) >> then po sts it to me on DVD, often with a matching disc label and [quoted text clipped - 18 lines] > > http://btjunkie.org/torrent/Monster-Moves-s03e03-Long-Locomotive-18-Mar-2008-TVR ip-XviD/52023879b09dc1e1c12b3e2e800ae374ee33665ef582 Polish up your weapon of choice, kim! SignatureMartin S. >>>> Hi All, >> [quoted text clipped - 45 lines] > > http://btjunkie.org/torrent/Monster-Moves-s03e03-Long-Locomotive-18-Mar-2008-TVR ip-XviD/52023879b09dc1e1c12b3e2e800ae374ee33665ef582 Thanks Chris. That's this year's Xmas presents taken care-of and they say Dutchmen aren't generous? (kim) >> As Martin S said 'The Box' does have many videos ripped off the TV as >> does btjunkie.org [quoted text clipped - 3 lines] > Thanks Chris. That's this year's Xmas presents taken care-of and they > say Dutchmen aren't generous? They're just as generous as Scotsmen and Yorkshiremen. They just don't throw their money around needlessly. ;-) SignatureMartin S. >A friend records *everything* off BBC4 (whether I want it or not) then posts >it to me on DVD, often with a matching disc label and cover! One of the best >programmes he sent me was "Monsoon Railway" which I've not been able to find >anywhere else. I'd kill for a download of Channel 5's "Monster Moves" >featuring the Scottish steam loco. "Britains leading heavy hauler Andrew Goodman embarks on an epic one hundred day journey on road, rail and ocean to move a vintage 15F steam locomotive 7,000 miles from Bloemfontein in South Africa back to Glasgow, Scotland where it was originally built sixty years ago. *" This one? SignaturePaul Matthews paul@cattytown.me.uk http://www.hepcats.co.uk >>A friend records *everything* off BBC4 (whether I want it or not) >>then posts [quoted text clipped - 13 lines] > Scotland where > it was originally built sixty years ago. *" So actually the only thing that was 'epic' about it was the time it took, lets face it, the loco's *original* journey out to SA would have been far more remarkable - typical modern dumbed down sh.t TV... <rant/> SignatureWikipedia: the Internet equivalent of Hyde Park and 'speakers corner'... >>> A friend records *everything* off BBC4 (whether I want it or not) >>> then posts [quoted text clipped - 17 lines] > took, lets face it, the loco's *original* journey out to SA would have > been far more remarkable No it wasn't because (not mentioned in the programme) it was originally shipped to South Africa in knocked-down form and reassembled there whereas the return journey was made in one piece. They discovered the hard way there wasn't even a dockside crane in the country which could lift anything that heavy. How they solved that particular problem is a story in itself. (kim) >>A friend records *everything* off BBC4 (whether I want it or not) then >>posts it to me on DVD, often with a matching disc label and cover! One [quoted text clipped - 8 lines] > > This one? 15F? Is that 3 times as powerful as a Class 5F? What is the rating of the Beyer-Garratts? SignatureMartin S. > "Britain's leading heavy hauler Andrew Goodman embarks on an epic one > hundred > day journey on road, rail and ocean to move a vintage 15F steam locomotive > 7,000 miles from Bloemfontein in South Africa back to Glasgow, Scotland > where > it was originally built sixty years ago. *" Is there now a major highway from southern Africa to the north of that continent, capable of carrying such traffic. Guess I'm a bit out of touch, but we contemplated such a trip about 30 years ago, and there was no continuous highway from north to south. John. >> "Britain's leading heavy hauler Andrew Goodman embarks on an epic one >> hundred [quoted text clipped - 9 lines] > > John. No. It's still one of the great "adventures" doing Africa north to south with your Land Rover - with the added bonus of being barred entry, shot at or murdered for you car in several countries! I suspect this engine will be taking quite a round-about route - a bit of "Palin" cheating... ;-) Cheers Richard SignatureI have become...............comfortably numb >>> "Britain's leading heavy hauler Andrew Goodman embarks on an epic >>> one hundred [quoted text clipped - 16 lines] > I suspect this engine will be taking quite a round-about route - a > bit of "Palin" cheating... ;-) It was shipped by sea, once they got it to a port. Everything that *could* go wrong on the journey *did* go wrong. It was nothing short of a miracle that it finally made it to Glasgow in one piece. (kim) >> A friend records *everything* off BBC4 (whether I want it or not) >> then posts it to me on DVD, often with a matching disc label and [quoted text clipped - 9 lines] > > This one? Yep! (kim) >>> A friend records *everything* off BBC4 (whether I want it or not) >>> then posts it to me on DVD, often with a matching disc label and [quoted text clipped - 11 lines] > >Yep! I can burn to disc if you want, or you can sign up to TheBox. www.thebox.bz. I am not sure if registration is invite only at the mo, if it is let me know an email addy and I'll send you an invite. Only thing is being a private tracker, they do expect you to hang around rather than hit and run, but it is really good for UK TV. It is just over a gig, so would be on a DVD, though it woul nbe a data DVD - takes less time than rendering to a watchable DVD and most players would still handle it. SignaturePaul Matthews paul@cattytown.me.uk http://www.hepcats.co.uk > I can burn to disc if you want, or you can sign up to TheBox. > www.thebox.bz. I am not sure if registration is invite only at the > mo, if it is let me know an email addy and I'll send you an invite. Thanks for the offer Paul, I'm already registered. I intend to convert it to regular DVD so friends can watch it. (kim) >>>> A friend records *everything* off BBC4 (whether I want it or not) >>>> then posts it to me on DVD, often with a matching disc label and [quoted text clipped - 22 lines] > DVD - takes less time than rendering to a watchable DVD and most > players would still handle it. If they are specified as DivX compatible. These are definitely in the minority in N. America. The Blu-Ray players I've seen are backwards compatible with DVDs and CDs, .jpg and .mp3, but not .avi/DivX. SignatureMartin S. |
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