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Model Forum / General / Railroads / November 2008Heljan announce price increase for 'Kestrel'.
The following from Heljan A/S < quote > As you will be aware the current global economic crisis has put pressure on both raw material cost and exchange rates. We have looked at the 'KESTREL' project and for it to remain viable (due to the limited numbers) we will have to increase the retail price to £119.95. It is not a decision we have taken lightly and hope you understand the reasons behind it. < /quote > John. > The following from Heljan A/S > [quoted text clipped - 13 lines] > > John. Do they say how many are being produced? One website is suggesting a "limited edition of 4000" which doesn't sound very limited to me! David <snip> > Do they say how many are being produced? One website is suggesting > a > "limited edition of 4000" which doesn't sound very limited to me! Then you neeed to buy a dictionary!  SignatureWikipedia: the Internet equivalent of Hyde Park and 'speakers corner'... > <snip> > [quoted text clipped - 3 lines] > > Then you neeed to buy a dictionary! Why? In the conext of the average RTR batch size, 4000 isn't particularly limited. MBQ <snip> > Why? In the conext of the average RTR batch size, 4000 But it is if one is talking about *total production* from the mould tooling - assuming that Heljan will be taking a sledge hammer to the tooling afterwards. > isn't particularly limited. It's still limited, the fact that a number has been quoted means that by definition the production quantity is limited, the 4001st customer will be disappointed!... Also, the figure 4000 (probably) wasn't chosen by accident, assuming it is the actual production quantity and not... think about it. :~) SignatureWikipedia: the Internet equivalent of Hyde Park and 'speakers corner'... > Do they say how many are being produced? One website is suggesting a > "limited edition of 4000" which doesn't sound very limited to me! I believe 4,000 is correct. John. >> Do they say how many are being produced? One website is suggesting a >> "limited edition of 4000" which doesn't sound very limited to me! > > I believe 4,000 is correct. Did Heljan wait until the entire allocation was already sold before announcing this "price increase"? (kim) > The following from Heljan A/S > [quoted text clipped - 10 lines] > > < /quote > B.S. from Heljan Fuel and raw material costs have fallen dramatically from their peak levels since the recession first took hold. The Pound has also fallen dramatically in value relative to other currencies over the last few weeks and this is just an excuse to restore profit margins to the level they were before. (kim) > > The following from Heljan A/S > [quoted text clipped - 16 lines] > since the recession first took hold. The Pound has also fallen dramatically > in value relative to other currencies over the last few weeks and this is Which makes imports more expensive, hence the price rise. > just an excuse to restore profit margins to the level they were before. And why shouldn't they? MBQ >>> The following from Heljan A/S >> [quoted text clipped - 24 lines] > > And why shouldn't they? I've been hit worse by the fall in the value of the Pound than anyone else. My shipping costs have also risen disproportionately as a consequnce but I can't raise my prices because my customers simply don't have the money to pay it. They've been hit themselves by rising food and fuel prices and nobody has given them an increase to compensaate for it. I've yet to hear a company announce "Due to a dramatic fall in the cost of oil and raw materials we are reducing our prices to customers." (kim) > I've yet to hear a company announce "Due to a dramatic fall in the cost of > oil and raw materials we are reducing our prices to customers." The petrol station at the end of the road has just done that ;-) MBQ >> I've yet to hear a company announce "Due to a dramatic fall in the >> cost of oil and raw materials we are reducing our prices to >> customers." > > The petrol station at the end of the road has just done that ;-) But do you know anyone that uses petrol who've reduced their prices as a result? (kim) >> The following from Heljan A/S >> [quoted text clipped - 19 lines] > last few weeks and this is just an excuse to restore profit margins > to the level they were before. Err, one is getting *less* Euros and USD [1] for every UKP. [1] I haven't checked other currencies but those two are the relevant ones here SignatureWikipedia: the Internet equivalent of Hyde Park and 'speakers corner'... > Err, one is getting *less* Euros and USD [1] for every UKP. I don't think so Jerry - it's not so long ago that you got around US$2 for every GBP, now it's nearer $1.50. John. >> Err, one is getting *less* Euros and USD [1] for every UKP. > > I don't think so Jerry - it's not so long ago that you got around > US$2 for every GBP, now it's nearer $1.50. That's what I said, the UKP buys less USDs or Euros! 12 months ago 1 UKP bought 2 USD, now it buys ~ 1.50 USD. 12 months ago one UKP bought 1.41 Euros, today on UKP buys ~1.18 Euros. [1] [1] http://newsvote.bbc.co.uk/1/shared/fds/hi/business/market_data/currency/default.stm Line might wrap in the above URL SignatureWikipedia: the Internet equivalent of Hyde Park and 'speakers corner'... > That's what I said, the UKP buys less USDs or Euros! Yes, sorry, now I've read correctly what you wrote. John. > > Err, one is getting *less* Euros and USD [1] for every UKP. > > I don't think so Jerry - it's not so long ago that you got around US$2 for > every GBP, now it's nearer $1.50. Exactly, $1.50 is *less* than $2, hence imports are more expensive and Heljan have had to increase their prices. MBQ >>> Err, one is getting *less* Euros and USD [1] for every UKP. >> [quoted text clipped - 3 lines] > Exactly, $1.50 is *less* than $2, hence imports are more expensive and > Heljan have had to increase their prices. But the cost of fuel and raw materials have droppped even faster during the same period so they can no longer be used as an excuse to raise prices. Also like Britain, Denmark is outside the Euro currency zone. (kim) >>>> Err, one is getting *less* Euros and USD [1] for every UKP. >>> [quoted text clipped - 9 lines] > raise prices. Also like Britain, Denmark is outside the Euro > currency zone. http://newsvote.bbc.co.uk/1/shared/fds/hi/business/market_data/currency/11/11639 /default.stm >>>>> Err, one is getting *less* Euros and USD [1] for every UKP. >>>> [quoted text clipped - 11 lines] > > http://newsvote.bbc.co.uk/1/shared/fds/hi/business/market_data/currency/11/11639 /default.stm According to that chart a "0.11%" rise in the value of the Danish Kroner against the UK Pound over the last month! (kim) |
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