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Bogies for Hornby Pullmans

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Wolf Kirchmeir - 25 Dec 2008 00:31 GMT
In a box of miscellaneous stuff donated to the club I found a Hornby
Pullman ("Ruth"). Previous owner had attached 4-wheel passenger trucks
and KD couplers. Doesn't look quite right. ;-)

Can anyone recommend bogies that are correct or nearly so for this
carriage? And source?

Thanks.

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Just zis Guy, you know? - 25 Dec 2008 01:28 GMT
>In a box of miscellaneous stuff donated to the club I found a Hornby
>Pullman ("Ruth"). Previous owner had attached 4-wheel passenger trucks
>and KD couplers. Doesn't look quite right. ;-)

Can't help you with this, but I did wonder if anyone makes a
worthwhile blue pullman kit for the not-terribly-proto4 inclined - I
am quite content with most RTRs as long as they will accept DCC.

Guy
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Graham Harrison - 25 Dec 2008 11:04 GMT
> In a box of miscellaneous stuff donated to the club I found a Hornby
> Pullman ("Ruth"). Previous owner had attached 4-wheel passenger trucks and
[quoted text clipped - 4 lines]
>
> Thanks.

What's "wrong"?   Do you think they should have 6 wheel trucks?

I don't actually *know* but my memory is of 4 wheel trucks.   These people
might know
http://www.southernelectric.org.uk/preservation/preservationpull.html that
page has a reference to Ruth.

Also every image I can find of a Hornby Pullman
http://images.google.co.uk/images?q=hornby%20pullman&ie=utf-8&oe=utf-8&rls=org.m
ozilla:en-GB:official&client=firefox-a&um=1&sa=N&tab=wi

has them riding on 4 wheel trucks.
Jerry - 25 Dec 2008 11:15 GMT
>> In a box of miscellaneous stuff donated to the club I found a
>> Hornby Pullman ("Ruth"). Previous owner had attached 4-wheel
>> passenger trucks and KD couplers. Doesn't look quite right. ;-)
>>
>> Can anyone recommend bogies that are correct or nearly so for this
>> carriage? And source?

Hornby?.... Duh!

> What's "wrong"?   Do you think they should have 6 wheel trucks?
>
> I don't actually *know* but my memory is of 4 wheel trucks.   These
> people might know

Ruth had a 4 wheel bogie (truck), very few UK Pullman cars had 6 wheel
bogies.
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Fred X - 25 Dec 2008 18:32 GMT
>>> In a box of miscellaneous stuff donated to the club I found a
>>> Hornby Pullman ("Ruth"). Previous owner had attached 4-wheel
[quoted text clipped - 12 lines]
> Ruth had a 4 wheel bogie (truck), very few UK Pullman cars had 6 wheel
> bogies.

Do Hornby know that? :)

Fred X
Jerry - 26 Dec 2008 10:10 GMT
<snip>

>> Ruth had a 4 wheel bogie (truck), very few UK Pullman cars had 6
>> wheel
>> bogies.
>
> Do Hornby know that? :)

I'm sure they do, perhaps you could tell Hornby and myself what you
know?...
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Fred X - 26 Dec 2008 19:18 GMT
> <snip>
>>>
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> I'm sure they do, perhaps you could tell Hornby and myself what you
> know?...

I just know that Hornby have said that they are going to make produce
some 6-wheel Pullmans next year.

Fred X
Jerry - 26 Dec 2008 20:36 GMT
>> <snip>
>>>>
[quoted text clipped - 10 lines]
> produce
> some 6-wheel Pullmans next year.

Your point being what, exactly? Try reading what I said moron, don't
just reply to what you think was said - or what ever your latest
ignorant rant is...
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Fred X - 27 Dec 2008 20:10 GMT
>>> <snip>
>>>>>
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> just reply to what you think was said - or what ever your latest
> ignorant rant is...

Wow, you really have anger issues don't you? But I think we already
knew that from your previous rants and attitude filled posts. It's
time you got a repeat prescription from your GP methinks.

Fred X
Jerry - 27 Dec 2008 20:37 GMT
<snip trolling>

Nothing left to reply to!

BTW, at least I don't have a split personality complex, like you do
"Fred"...
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Wolf Kirchmeir - 25 Dec 2008 15:35 GMT
>> In a box of miscellaneous stuff donated to the club I found a Hornby
>> Pullman ("Ruth"). Previous owner had attached 4-wheel passenger trucks
[quoted text clipped - 6 lines]
>
> What's "wrong"?   Do you think they should have 6 wheel trucks?

They are US prototype trucks, so wheel base is too short, and wheels are
too small. They do have RP25 flanges, which is why previous owner
replaced the Hornby bogies with those strange things that Hornby
believed were wheels.

> I don't actually *know* but my memory is of 4 wheel trucks.   These
> people might know
[quoted text clipped - 4 lines]
> http://images.google.co.uk/images?q=hornby%20pullman&ie=utf-8&oe=utf-8&rls=org.m
ozilla:en-GB:official&client=firefox-a&um=1&sa=N&tab=wi
 
> has them riding on 4 wheel trucks.

Yeah, well, I want some correct bogies, and RP25 wheels.

Thanks for the URLs. Helpful.

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John Turner - 25 Dec 2008 12:11 GMT
> In a box of miscellaneous stuff donated to the club I found a Hornby
> Pullman ("Ruth"). Previous owner had attached 4-wheel passenger trucks and
> KD couplers. Doesn't look quite right. ;-)
>
> Can anyone recommend bogies that are correct or nearly so for this
> carriage? And source?

From memory 'Ruth' was one of the shortie Pullman coaches originally tooled
by Tri-ang.  I bears no real resemblence to any coach which ran on British
metals, and consequently run it on what you like.  The original coach would
have had 4-wheel bogies.

John.
Wolf Kirchmeir - 25 Dec 2008 15:35 GMT
>> In a box of miscellaneous stuff donated to the club I found a Hornby
>> Pullman ("Ruth"). Previous owner had attached 4-wheel passenger trucks and
[quoted text clipped - 9 lines]
>
> John.

Yes, it is Hornby-Triang. I thought perhaps someone makes correct
4-wheel bogies for the Pullmans, and if not too expensive, I wouldn't
mind using them. Ah well, no matter.

I have some trucks with a longer wheel base, which should look a lot
better. Will run it under the Christmas tree, since that's a fantasy
railway, and anything goes. ;-)

Thanks.

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