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Model Forum / General / Railroads / November 2009Traversers and train lifts?
Does anyone know of published designs on the web for traversers and train lifts? I'm getting arthritic and need to have the steaming up area for my garden railway at table height, and then some means of lowering the complete train (say, up to 6 feet in length) down to the running rails which are at ground level. What I have in mind is a horizontal traverser at table level, which then morphs to be a vertical traverser at the edge of the table. It's always easier to crib off someone else's design! > Does anyone know of published designs on the web for traversers and > train lifts? I'm getting arthritic and need to have the steaming up area [quoted text clipped - 6 lines] > > It's always easier to crib off someone else's design! Something based on this? http://www.kdbenches.co.uk/ Cheers Richard  SignatureI have become...............comfortably numb > Does anyone know of published designs on the web for traversers > and train lifts? I'm getting arthritic and need to have the steaming up [quoted text clipped - 5 lines] > morphs to be a vertical traverser at the edge of the table. > It's always easier to crib off someone else's design! Apologies, but the answer came to me as soon as I had pressed "Send"! The idea must have been on my back burner when I was sidetracked by composing my query. The answer is to contrive of a fork-lift truck mechanism that is constrained to run on its own rails set at just below ground level so that the lowered position of the rail bed is at ground level. The horizontal movement of the truck (when the rail bed is set high) forms the traverser; the vertical movement of the truck forms the lift. >> Does anyone know of published designs on the web for traversers >> and train lifts? I'm getting arthritic and need to have the steaming up [quoted text clipped - 19 lines] > set high) forms the traverser; the vertical movement > of the truck forms the lift. Perhaps Jane will tell you if a helix is possible, certainly seems simpler to build and maintain. cheers, Simon >>> Does anyone know of published designs on the web for traversers >>> and train lifts? I'm getting arthritic and need to have the steaming [quoted text clipped - 24 lines] > Perhaps Jane will tell you if a helix is possible, certainly seems > simpler to build and maintain. Helices are certainly possible in OO, and in Scalextric as we saw on James May's prog. on BBC2 last night, but I'm not so sure in a larger scale due to the required radius of the track and the limited space available in the garden. If it were me, I'd raise all the track to the height of the steaming-up area. Why do you need a traverser element to your design? Why not move the train directly onto the lift from the steaming-up area? I assume your design includes safeguards to prevent things falling from a great height onto the ground? SignatureJane http://www.janesullivan.webspace.virginmedia.com/railway/railway.html > cheers, > Simon >>>> Does anyone know of published designs on the web for traversers >>>> and train lifts? I'm getting arthritic and need to have the steaming up [quoted text clipped - 37 lines] >> cheers, >> Simon It all seems so much hard work. Would be tempted to put a low seat at the position of the loco and steps to hole for feet under track. Cheers, Simon > "Jane Sullivan" <never@ho.me> wrote... >> "simon" <nospam@nospam.com> wrote... [quoted text clipped - 40 lines] > It all seems so much hard work. Would be tempted to put a low seat at > the position of the loco and steps to hole for feet under track. Might be difficult if set in concrete. SignatureMartin S. >Helices are certainly possible in OO, and in Scalextric as we saw on >James May's prog. on BBC2 last night, but I'm not so sure in a larger >scale due to the required radius of the track and the limited space >available in the garden. If it were me, I'd raise all the track to the >height of the steaming-up area. What sort of diameter would you use for a OO helix ? Adrian SignatureTo Reply : replace "bulleid" with "adrian" - all mail to bulleid is rejected Sorry for the rigmarole, If I want spam, I'll go to the shops Every time someone says "I don't believe in trolls", another one dies. >>Helices are certainly possible in OO, and in Scalextric as we saw on >>James May's prog. on BBC2 last night, but I'm not so sure in a larger [quoted text clipped - 3 lines] > > What sort of diameter would you use for a OO helix ? I used a diameter of 8 feet, but that's because I had the space. Take a look at my web pages, where there are more details. http://www.janesullivan.webspace.virginmedia.com/railway/railway.html > Adrian >> What sort of diameter would you use for a OO helix ? > >I used a diameter of 8 feet, but that's because I had the space. Take a >look at my web pages, where there are more details. >http://www.janesullivan.webspace.virginmedia.com/railway/railway.html Thanks, some nice stuff on there I like the Garret, pity I don't have the space to do justice to one. 8ft is way too big for the space I have available (~12ft wide, and I have to be able to get through the middle of that), I would think 4ft maximum (single track). Adrian SignatureTo Reply : replace "bulleid" with "adrian" - all mail to bulleid is rejected Sorry for the rigmarole, If I want spam, I'll go to the shops Every time someone says "I don't believe in trolls", another one dies. >> Does anyone know of published designs on the web for traversers >> and train lifts? I'm getting arthritic and need to have the steaming up [quoted text clipped - 19 lines] > set high) forms the traverser; the vertical movement > of the truck forms the lift. The REV P. Denny had one made of Maccano for his 4mm I assume late 50s. So a Dexion version might do > Does anyone know of published designs on the web for traversers > and train lifts? I'm getting arthritic and need to have the steaming up [quoted text clipped - 6 lines] > > It's always easier to crib off someone else's design! There has been some talk on the MERG (WWW.merg.org.uk) group of the use of a Paternoster lift design to do this. Richard >> Does anyone know of published designs on the web for traversers >> and train lifts? I'm getting arthritic and need to have the steaming [quoted text clipped - 9 lines] > There has been some talk on the MERG (WWW.merg.org.uk) group of the > use of a Paternoster lift design to do this. We had one of those in the new Engineering Building at Oxford in 1963. You had to be pretty sharp stepping on and off. I've seen automated car parks with a system of horizontal and vertical lifts - there was one in Japan for bicycles shown on TV. SignatureMartin S. >>> Does anyone know of published designs on the web for traversers >>> and train lifts? I'm getting arthritic and need to have the steaming [quoted text clipped - 15 lines] > I've seen automated car parks with a system of horizontal and vertical > lifts - there was one in Japan for bicycles shown on TV. Plus the French dept at Birmingham University where she went. Cheers, Simon > "MartinS" <me@my.place> wrote... >>>> Does anyone know of published designs on the web for traversers [quoted text clipped - 18 lines] > > Plus the French dept at Birmingham University where she went. Who's she? The cat's mother? SignatureMartin S. >> "MartinS" <me@my.place> wrote... >>>>> Does anyone know of published designs on the web for traversers [quoted text clipped - 20 lines] > > Who's she? The cat's mother? She went to a top class university, I went to a poly. The tots mummy. Cheers, Simon > "MartinS" <me@my.place> wrote... >>> "MartinS" <me@my.place> wrote... [quoted text clipped - 24 lines] >> > She went to a top class university, I went to a poly. The tots mummy. Oh, the better half, the old ball & chain, SWMBO. SignatureMartin S. >> There has been some talk on the MERG (WWW.merg.org.uk) group of the >> use of a Paternoster lift design to do this. > >We had one of those in the new Engineering Building at Oxford in 1963. >You had to be pretty sharp stepping on and off. Also in the Biochemistry Department a few blocks away, in the early 70s. Contrary to urban myth, it *was* safe to go around the top - DAMHIKT. David SignatureDavid Littlewood > MartinS <me@my.place> > writes [quoted text clipped - 8 lines] > > Contrary to urban myth, it *was* safe to go around the top - DAMHIKT. And through the pit at the bottom as long as there wasn't a power failure. SignatureMartin S. > In article <y7BMm.7065$tz6.114@newsfe02.iad>, MartinS <me@my.place> writes >>> There has been some talk on the MERG (WWW.merg.org.uk) group of the [quoted text clipped - 3 lines] > Also in the Biochemistry Department a few blocks away, in the early 70s. > Contrary to urban myth, it *was* safe to go around the top - DAMHIKT. There was one in the Uni library. The cognoscenti amongst us would persuade our timid friends that it was quite safe to go over the top, which we would demonstrate, only to re-appear on the way down doing a handstand! |
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