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Model Forum / General / Railroads / January 2010New Heljan 33/0s
Heljan have just released new 33/0 models as: - Green D6585 - WCRC 33025 - WCRC 33029 Can anybody who has seen them please tell me if the have the 'flat' roof profile of older 33/0s, or the corrected profile that appeared on their 33/1s. Thanks Jon > Heljan have just released new 33/0 models as: > - Green D6585 [quoted text clipped - 4 lines] > profile of older 33/0s, or the corrected profile that appeared on their > 33/1s. Thanks Jon I've got one of the green ones in front of me now and compared with a similar 33/1 I'd say the roof is very slightly flatter. I'm not familar enough with the prototypes to say whether it looks right or not. John. > Heljan have just released new 33/0 models as: > - Green D6585 [quoted text clipped - 4 lines] > profile of older 33/0s, or the corrected profile that appeared on their > 33/1s. Thanks Jon It's the incorrect flat roof profile. You are not one of those rivet counters who insist on their models being the same shape as the prototype are you? :) Fred X > It's the incorrect flat roof profile. You are not one of those rivet > counters who insist on their models being the same shape as the prototype > are you? :) > > Fred X It's always good if is the right shape! It would have seemed sensible for Heljan to get it right, as they have already done so for 33/1s. I know there are a lot of people who won't buy these models now. Jon >> It's the incorrect flat roof profile. You are not one of those rivet >> counters who insist on their models being the same shape as the [quoted text clipped - 10 lines] > > Jon True, but there are also those who still will. Fred X > True, but there are also those who still will. And have, but if you want a decent 33/0 what choices are there? John. >> True, but there are also those who still will. > > And have, but if you want a decent 33/0 what choices are there? The Hornby Railroad version? :) Fred X >> It's the incorrect flat roof profile. You are not one of those rivet >> counters who insist on their models being the same shape as the prototype [quoted text clipped - 9 lines] > > Jon Contrast it with Bachmann's criticism of the 37 and the different versions they have brought out to correct them. Chris >>> It's the incorrect flat roof profile. You are not one of those rivet >>> counters who insist on their models being the same shape as the [quoted text clipped - 9 lines] > Contrast it with Bachmann's criticism of the 37 and the different > versions they have brought out to correct them. Yes, but there are much larger sales potential for a Class 37. Fred X >>>> It's the incorrect flat roof profile. You are not one of those rivet >>>> counters who insist on their models being the same shape as the [quoted text clipped - 13 lines] > > Fred X They never corrected the 47 either which has at least the same sales potential as a 37. Chris > They never corrected the 47 either which has at least the same sales > potential as a 37. Oh really? You've not seen the latest class 47s from Bachmann then? John. >> They never corrected the 47 either which has at least the same sales >> potential as a 37. [quoted text clipped - 4 lines] > > John. Not quite sure what you mean. I was making the point that Bachmann do seem to try and correct mistakes even if not wholly successful whereas Heljan don't seem to revisit their products. Chris > Not quite sure what you mean. You said they've never corrected the class 47 - but it may be that you were referring to the Heljan model and not the Bachmann one as I first assmed. If that's the case then I apologise unreservedly. Just to clarify my comment: Bachmann have modified their class 47 tooling and the latest models seem to be a worthwhile improvement over the earlier ones. John. From: "John Turner" <nospam@nospam.invalid> Sent: Saturday, January 23, 2010 9:25 AM Newsgroups: uk.rec.models.rail Subject: Re: New Heljan 33/0s > Just to clarify my comment: Bachmann have modified their class 47 tooling > and the latest models seem to be a worthwhile improvement over the earlier > ones. > > John. Do they still have rivet heads around the windscreen frames, like the class 57? Riddles > Do they still have rivet heads around the windscreen frames, like the > class 57? No, they've been removed along with the piping from the (class 57) bogies. John. >> Do they still have rivet heads around the windscreen frames, like the >> class 57? > > No, they've been removed along with the piping from the (class 57) bogies. > > John. Presumably this has happened in the last 12 months then! My 32-801DS, (D1746) bought on 26/1/09 has similar windscreen surrounds and bogies, to my 32-760 (57307) bought 25/8/06. Riddles > My 32-801DS, (D1746) bought on 26/1/09 has similar windscreen surrounds > and bogies, to my 32-760 (57307) bought 25/8/06. Yes, the first modified release (late 2009) was in the new boxing (with internal clear plastic model support) and from memory is: 31-652 - 47474 "Sir Roland Hill" in RES livery 31-650 & 31-651 are due to follow soon John. >> Not quite sure what you mean. > [quoted text clipped - 7 lines] > > John. Yep that's what I meant following the Heljan 33/0 retooling discussion and yes I know Bachmann have brought out a newer version of the 47. Sorry for the confusion. Chris |
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