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Richard Tobin - 12 Feb 2010 22:01 GMT
I see frequent references here to "code <some number>".  How does this
relate to OO, HO, and N gauge?

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Mike Smith - 12 Feb 2010 22:25 GMT
>I see frequent references here to "code <some number>".  How does this
> relate to OO, HO, and N gauge?
>
> -- Richard

'Tis the size of rail, so Code 100 was the older OO standard, now reduced to
(IIRC) 80, N used to be (IIRC) 80 and is now available in 55 - IIRC it is a
measure of the height of the visible rail (some, eg Peco N fine) have some
of the rail set into the sleeper base as otherwise the rail would be too
flimsy. For the life of me I cannot remember if this was mm or some Imperial
measure.

Regards

Mike
LDosser - 13 Feb 2010 02:05 GMT
>>I see frequent references here to "code <some number>".  How does this
>> relate to OO, HO, and N gauge?
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> too flimsy. For the life of me I cannot remember if this was mm or some
> Imperial measure.

Hundreds of an inch. Code 65 = 0.065"
Wolf K - 13 Feb 2010 03:56 GMT
>> I see frequent references here to "code <some number>".  How does this
>> relate to OO, HO, and N gauge?
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>
> Mike

Code 100 represents rail of 152lb/yard in HO, slightly lighter in OO.
!52lb rail was AFAIK only used by the Pennsy, and even they did not use
it extensively. Still, because of that fact, 16.5mm track for HO is to
scale, sort of.

Code 80/83 represent the heaviest currently used rail for OO/HO, about
132lb/yard. Most track is built with lighter rail, hence Peco's code 75,
and code 70 rail for 16.5mm track from Shinohara, etc.

Code 80 for N is simply not to scale, but it's robust enough to stand up
to repeated assembly and disassembly. Code 55 is about right for 152lb
rail. A better rail size for N would be code 40, but that is a fragile
rail, easily kinked. I used code 40 for a 16.5 mm gauge turnout about 40
years ago, glued the rail down with Pliobond. Worked well as a demo,
even with 0.035" wheel flanges, but I never installed it in a layout.

Rail height and weight and therefore scale appearance correlate fairly
well, but not perfectly. Code 100 with a narrow railhead will look
pretty good if the track is ballasted, painted, and weathered. Look at
real track for ideas on how to do this. In this, as in so many aspects
of model railways, illusion often creates as good an effect as true
scale, and sometimes better. ;-)

cheers,
wolf k.
John Turner - 13 Feb 2010 19:21 GMT
> IIRC it is a  measure of the height of the visible rail

Indeed the measure in in 1/1000ths of an inch.

John.
Christopher A. Lee - 12 Feb 2010 22:27 GMT
>I see frequent references here to "code <some number>".  How does this
>relate to OO, HO, and N gauge?

The height of the rail in thousandths of an inch. So code 100 is a
tenth of an inch.

So it is independent of scale.

>-- Richard
LDosser - 13 Feb 2010 02:08 GMT
>>I see frequent references here to "code <some number>".  How does this
>>relate to OO, HO, and N gauge?
[quoted text clipped - 5 lines]
>
>>-- Richard

My bad! You're correct.
Jane Sullivan - 13 Feb 2010 10:05 GMT
The code number is the height of the rail in thousandths of an inch.

Starting at the bottom:
code 55 is N gauge
code 60 is Z gauge and N-6.5
code 75 is OO/HO gauge amd HOm
code 80 is N gauge and something called OO-9
code 83 is HO gauge
code 100 is OO/HO gauge and something called O-16.5
code 124 is O gauge
code 143 is O gauge
code 200 is 1 gauge and something called SM-32
code 250 is something called G-42

In the above listing "something called" indicates that Peco made up the
description. The original way of describing narrow gauge track is to use
the scale, followed by a lower-case n, and an indication of the
full-size gauge; thus OO-9 is OOn30 or OOn2 1/2

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>I see frequent references here to "code <some number>".  How does this
> relate to OO, HO, and N gauge?
>
> -- Richard
Erik Olsen - 13 Feb 2010 10:21 GMT
> The code number is the height of the rail in thousandths of an inch.
>
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> to use the scale, followed by a lower-case n, and an indication of the
> full-size gauge; thus OO-9 is OOn30 or OOn2 1/2

It's much too simple to say "is". Code 55 is also used in H0 gauge, and
I've used code 100 in 0 gauge. You can use whatever rail suits your
prototype and scale.

Then there's code 40 which is mostly used in H0f, N, Nm/Nn3 and Z gauge.

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Jane Sullivan - 13 Feb 2010 10:48 GMT
>> The code number is the height of the rail in thousandths of an inch.
>>
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> Then there's code 40 which is mostly used in H0f, N, Nm/Nn3 and Z
> gauge.

Erik, you're right. I was just listing the stuff that is available
ready-made in the UK. If you make it yourself you can use anything,
although I think code 250 might be a bit big for Z scale :-)

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Jim Guthrie - 13 Feb 2010 13:54 GMT
Erik,

>Then there's code 40 which is mostly used in H0f, N, Nm/Nn3 and Z gauge.

Not forgetting 2mm scale :-)

Jim.
Paul Boyd - 13 Feb 2010 15:08 GMT
> Erik,
>
>> Then there's code 40 which is mostly used in H0f, N, Nm/Nn3 and Z gauge.
>
> Not forgetting 2mm scale :-)

...and 4mm scale narrow gauge (S4n2) :-)

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Erik Olsen - 13 Feb 2010 15:39 GMT
>> Erik,
>>
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>
> ...and 4mm scale narrow gauge (S4n2) :-)

Sorry, sometimes I just forget those weird British scales ;-)

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Christopher A. Lee - 13 Feb 2010 18:30 GMT
>The code number is the height of the rail in thousandths of an inch.
>
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>
>HTH

That is with ready to run track, flrex-track etc,.

You can use what you like - several 7mm Colonel Stevens-ish light
railway layouts use code 100.
Richard Tobin - 13 Feb 2010 16:04 GMT
>I see frequent references here to "code <some number>".  How does this
>relate to OO, HO, and N gauge?

Thanks for all the very informative answers.

-- Richard
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