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sutartsorric - 13 Apr 2010 15:17 GMT
I have seen video footage of a heavy train of track panels, with two
Stanier 8Fs on the front, mainly on the S&C in the 1960s. I was
wondering if I could get away with running a train such as this when I
get a decent sized oval.

Does anyone know the origin and destination of these trains, and how
frequently they ran?

John
John Turner - 13 Apr 2010 16:04 GMT
>I have seen video footage of a heavy train of track panels, with two
> Stanier 8Fs on the front, mainly on the S&C in the 1960s. I was
> wondering if I could get away with running a train such as this when I
> get a decent sized oval.

It's your trainset, you operate it as you choose.

> Does anyone know the origin and destination of these trains, and how
> frequently they ran?

I suspect they would be run in connection with renewal of track sections on
the S&C, unless of course they were taking new track panels to other parts
of the network.  They would operate as and when required.

Rail was generally produced in Workington, but I'm unsure where the
prefabricated panels of track would be produced, but there were sleeper
works all around the network.

John.
manatbandq@hotmail.com - 13 Apr 2010 16:22 GMT
> I have seen video footage of a heavy train of track panels, with two
> Stanier 8Fs on the front, mainly on the S&C in the 1960s. I was
> wondering if I could get away with running a train such as this when I
> get a decent sized oval.

"It's my layout, I'll damn well run what I like" :-)

MBQ
sutartsorric - 14 Apr 2010 12:10 GMT
On 13 Apr, 16:22, "manatba...@hotmail.com" <manatba...@hotmail.com>
wrote:

> > I have seen video footage of a heavy train of track panels, with two
> > Stanier 8Fs on the front, mainly on the S&C in the 1960s. I was
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>
> MBQ

Sorry, I cant do that. Dont ask me why, but operational realism is the
one thing that I try to preserve as far as possible.
manatbandq@hotmail.com - 14 Apr 2010 12:27 GMT
> On 13 Apr, 16:22, "manatba...@hotmail.com" <manatba...@hotmail.com>
> wrote:
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> Sorry, I cant do that. Dont ask me why, but operational realism is the
> one thing that I try to preserve as far as possible.

With an electric powered 8F running round an oval? You fell at the
first hurdles, LOL!

MBQ
sutartsorric - 15 Apr 2010 21:13 GMT
On 14 Apr, 12:27, "manatba...@hotmail.com" <manatba...@hotmail.com>
wrote:

> > On 13 Apr, 16:22, "manatba...@hotmail.com" <manatba...@hotmail.com>
> > wrote:
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>
> MBQ

I predicted before I started my comment that someone would make a
cheap shot at "humour",
which is why I added "try to preserve as far as possible".

I thought that I might be asking a sensible question, but the answers
so far have shown this group's mentality. Never mind, I will try
elsewhere.
simon - 14 Apr 2010 13:20 GMT
On 13 Apr, 16:22, "manatba...@hotmail.com" <manatba...@hotmail.com>
wrote:
> On Apr 13, 3:17 pm, sutartsorric <sutartsor...@googlemail.com> wrote:
>
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>
> MBQ

Sorry, I cant do that. Dont ask me why, but operational realism is the
one thing that I try to preserve as far as possible.

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Not my choice, but nothing at all wrong with that for you :-)

However, I dont understand the question. If youve seen such a video then can
be reasonably sure it happened. What information are you asking for ?

Cheers,
Simon
sutartsorric - 15 Apr 2010 21:09 GMT
> On 13 Apr, 16:22, "manatba...@hotmail.com" <manatba...@hotmail.com>
> wrote:
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> Cheers,
> Simon

I could refer you to my original post, but just for you I will copy
and paste the last sentence:-

"Does anyone know the origin and destination of these trains, and how
frequently they ran? "
simon - 15 Apr 2010 23:32 GMT
>> On 13 Apr, 16:22, "manatba...@hotmail.com" <manatba...@hotmail.com>
>> wrote:
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> "Does anyone know the origin and destination of these trains, and how
> frequently they ran? "

If it helps its very likely it was going in the direction of Carlisle.
manatbandq@hotmail.com - 16 Apr 2010 08:22 GMT
> > "sutartsorric" <sutartsor...@googlemail.com> wrote in message
>
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> "Does anyone know the origin and destination of these trains, and how
> frequently they ran? "

Which was answered in the very first reply, with no hint of thanks or
acknowledgement from yourself. What do you expect?

MBQ
Greg.Procter - 16 Apr 2010 04:16 GMT
> On 13 Apr, 16:22, "manatba...@hotmail.com" <manatba...@hotmail.com>
> wrote:
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> Sorry, I cant do that. Dont ask me why, but operational realism is the
> one thing that I try to preserve as far as possible.

Such trains run from the nearest relevant workshop to wherever track is
being laid or relaid.
The workshop(s) like to remain busy so such trains departing would be
regular.
Any given piece of track will only be laid or relayed the one time per
the life of the trackwork.
Therefore, the closer to the works you model and the amount of network
beyond on your specific line will determine how often such trains will
pass.
Such trains will be timetabled so as not to interfere with normal
income generating trains.
There are many non-revenue trains, signals (refilling and maintainance)
Weights/weighbridge, etc. There were probably more in the steam era than
modern era.
You could suppose a track assembly works just off layout, or locate the
nearest prototype one to the location of your empire and calculte how
often a train would pass.
(length of network beyond/track lifespan/365/panel length will give you
the approximate volume of traffic ;-)

Greg.P.
NZ
 
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