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Model Forum / General / Railroads / May 2010Sentinel Shunters
Whilst at the Mickleover show I noticed a loco I had never seen on a layout ( or in real life ) a Sentinel Shunter, almost as wide as they were long. Able to push / pull a coule of waggons. The boiler was vertical with two vertical cylinders with chain drive ! What great little loco's Chris >Whilst at the Mickleover show I noticed a loco I had never seen on a >layout ( or in real life ) a Sentinel Shunter, almost as wide as they [quoted text clipped - 7 lines] > >Chris It was actually a high pressure water tube boiler that would raise steam very quickly so the fire could be dropped if it was idle for long periods. Sentinel Waggon Works (note the spelling) already had a successful range of steam road trucks and applied the same technology to railways, making a popular range of economical light shunters and steam railcars. The LMS, LNER and even the GWR all had a few shunters, and the LNER bought their railcars. They also sold a few full size steam motor locomotives overseas, using three drum water tube boilers. The steam motor and chain drive made it easy to rebuild the shunters with Rolls Royce diesel engines, and the company was eventually owned by Rolls Royce. http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Sentinel_Waggon_Works >> Whilst at the Mickleover show I noticed a loco I had never seen on a >> layout ( or in real life ) a Sentinel Shunter, almost as wide as they [quoted text clipped - 17 lines] > The LMS, LNER and even the GWR all had a few shunters, and the LNER > bought their railcars. There is a shunter preserved in Baghdad(!).  SignatureArthur Figgis Surrey, UK >Whilst at the Mickleover show I noticed a loco I had never seen on a >layout ( or in real life ) a Sentinel Shunter, almost as wide as they [quoted text clipped - 7 lines] > >Chris Wayyyyy...Derby! -- The Zero ST > On Sun, 16 May 2010 16:47:05 -0700 (PDT), Dragon Heart > [quoted text clipped - 15 lines] > -- > The Zero ST " Wayyyyy...Derby! " ?????? >> On Sun, 16 May 2010 16:47:05 -0700 (PDT), Dragon Heart >> [quoted text clipped - 17 lines] > >" Wayyyyy...Derby! " ?????? Ignore me....Too much beer. -- The Zero ST > On Mon, 17 May 2010 13:16:52 -0700 (PDT), Dragon Heart > [quoted text clipped - 27 lines] > > - Show quoted text - That's OK it's your round ! >>> On Sun, 16 May 2010 16:47:05 -0700 (PDT), Dragon Heart >>> [quoted text clipped - 22 lines] > -- > The Zero ST dont tell me your middle name is Ind ? Cheers, Simon >>>> On Sun, 16 May 2010 16:47:05 -0700 (PDT), Dragon Heart >>>> [quoted text clipped - 24 lines] > >dont tell me your middle name is Ind ? Haha....I've just taken this photo for you, of my livingroom wall... http://img232.imageshack.us/img232/1271/wallml.jpg -- The Zero ST >>>>> On Sun, 16 May 2010 16:47:05 -0700 (PDT), Dragon Heart >>>>> [quoted text clipped - 32 lines] > -- > The Zero ST memories of 14 yrs old, off to disco with a couple of bottles. pity the youth of today. Cheers, Simon >>>>> On Sun, 16 May 2010 16:47:05 -0700 (PDT), Dragon Heart >>>>> [quoted text clipped - 29 lines] > > http://img232.imageshack.us/img232/1271/wallml.jpg From 1934 the brewery was known as Ind Coope & Allsopp; or as the local drinkers used to say "Ind Coope's all slops". SignatureJane >>>>>> -- >>>>>> The Zero ST [quoted text clipped - 14 lines] >From 1934 the brewery was known as Ind Coope & Allsopp; or as the local >drinkers used to say "Ind Coope's all slops". And one of the first of to introduce lager to the UK Market. It surprises some who consider the devil arrived with it in the 1960's and 1970's to find that Allsops bought a lager Plant in 1897. Ind Coope then went on to develop lager further after the merger. and also acquired the Wrexam lager company which was also established in the 1890's. To get back to railway matters there is a photo which appears occasionally which shows the lager Tanks for one of those lager breweries being carried on a train. And ISTR that in some photos of a Bullied Tavern car there is a cask on the counter which if you look closely has Allsops stamped on the end. G.Harman >>>>>> On Sun, 16 May 2010 16:47:05 -0700 (PDT), Dragon Heart >>>>>> [quoted text clipped - 32 lines] > From 1934 the brewery was known as Ind Coope & Allsopp; or as the local > drinkers used to say "Ind Coope's all slops". Similar to the way that we all said "Fuller sh.t and Turnips" (Fuller Smith and Turner) in London. SignatureTinkerer >Whilst at the Mickleover show I noticed a loco I had never seen on a >layout ( or in real life ) a Sentinel Shunter, almost as wide as they [quoted text clipped - 5 lines] > >What great little loco's http://www.lner.info/locos/Y/y1y3.shtml you mean? Guy Signaturehttp://www.chapmancentral.co.uk/ The usenet price promise: all opinions offered in newsgroups are guaranteed to be worth the price paid. >>Whilst at the Mickleover show I noticed a loco I had never seen on a >>layout ( or in real life ) a Sentinel Shunter, almost as wide as they [quoted text clipped - 7 lines] > >http://www.lner.info/locos/Y/y1y3.shtml you mean? Skoda built various Sentinel vehicles under licence including a steam railcar... http://www.feudal.cz/sentinel/html/ukazka_38.htm There are references to a derelict 0-4-0 vertical boilered Skoda-built Sentinel shunter but I couldn't find a picture. http://www.steamlocomotive.info/locobrowse.cfm?bn=Skoda-Sentinel > Skoda built various Sentinel vehicles under licence including a steam > railcar... > > http://www.feudal.cz/sentinel/html/ukazka_38.htm I wonder if they built this, called a Gleiskraftrad 1. I photographed it in the roundhouse museum at Schwarzenberg, but my photos of the descriptive nameboard are illegible: http://www.brunnian.f2s.com/pictures/gleiskraftrad.JPG (http://www.vse-eisenbahnmuseum-schwarzenberg.de/) Pretty certain that isn't a Sentinel or Sentinel based product. A bit more reminiscent of French or Belgium origin perhaps? >> Skoda built various Sentinel vehicles under licence including a steam >> railcar... [quoted text clipped - 6 lines] > http://www.brunnian.f2s.com/pictures/gleiskraftrad.JPG > (http://www.vse-eisenbahnmuseum-schwarzenberg.de/) On 19 May, 14:45, "Keith Patrick" <patrickinpo...@btinternet.com> wrote: > Pretty certain that isn't a Sentinel or Sentinel based product. A bit more > reminiscent of French or Belgium origin perhaps? Conversational trip-up there. By 'They' I meant Skoda, not Sentinel! > On 19 May, 14:45, "Keith Patrick" <patrickinpo...@btinternet.com> > wrote: [quoted text clipped - 3 lines] > > Conversational trip-up there. By 'They' I meant Skoda, not Sentinel! ...and I've since discovered they were trabants. > Whilst at the Mickleover show I noticed a loco I had never seen on a > layout ( or in real life ) a Sentinel Shunter, almost as wide as they [quoted text clipped - 7 lines] > > Chris There were two of these at Bristol (4)7190/7192 ) for working the very short radius yard at Avon Street. There were also L&Y Pugs 51212 & 51202 at that time. The yard was on the quays of Bristol City Docks and provided the liason between the Ships and the Midland Railway by using barges. There was a hydraulic lift for barges but I cannot find much detail of that. The approach line to the yard is the only surviving piece of the Barrow Road/ St.Phillips complex and is employed for the Trash Transfer trains. >Whilst at the Mickleover show I noticed a loco I had never seen on a >layout ( or in real life ) a Sentinel Shunter, almost as wide as they [quoted text clipped - 5 lines] > >What great little loco's Dapol are in the process of producing one as a special for Model Rail magazine. I've already got the cash mentally earmarked when it's ready :-) Mark SignatureBlog: http://mark.goodge.co.uk Stuff: http://www.good-stuff.co.uk > Whilst at the Mickleover show I noticed a loco I had never seen on a > layout ( or in real life ) a Sentinel Shunter, almost as wide as they > were long. We have one on our exhibition layout Boxer's Yard [1], working as the shunter on the private sidings. It's a Nu-Cast kit, running on a Spud motor bogie. Lovely little engine and very reliable, often running for the whole of both days of a show. IIRC, it was the first white metal loco kit my Dad ever built. Notes:- 1. http://www.durhammodellers.com/boxers/index.htm SignatureJades' First Encounters Site - http://www.jades.org/ffe.htm The best Frontier: First Encounters site on the Web. nospam@jades.org /is/ a real email address! > > Whilst at the Mickleover show I noticed a loco I had never seen on a > > layout ( or in real life ) a Sentinel Shunter, almost as wide as they [quoted text clipped - 15 lines] > > nos...@jades.org /is/ a real email address! if you go to the Chasewater railway site http://www.chasewaterrailway.co.uk/stock.php you will find a picture of one running David |
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