Home | Contact Us | FAQ | Search & Site Map | Link to Us
Sign In | Join | Other 45 Sites in Network
Home
Discussion Groups
General
ModelsRailroadsRockets
Radio Controlled
Air ModelsHelicoptersLand ModelsWater Models
ModelGeeks.com
Contact UsLink To UsSearch & Site Map

Model Forum / General / Railroads / May 2010



Tip: Looking for answers? Try searching our database.

Wow, know what next kit to build is ....

Thread view: 
Enable EMail Alerts  Start New Thread
Thread rating: 
simon - 27 May 2010 23:50 GMT
http://cgi.ebay.co.uk/LNWR-Greater-Britain-2-2-2-2-Etched-Brass-Kit-/32053541672
4?cmd=ViewItem&pt=UK_Trains_Railway_Models&hash=item4aa1664f94

manatbandq@hotmail.com - 28 May 2010 10:56 GMT
> http://cgi.ebay.co.uk/LNWR-Greater-Britain-2-2-2-2-Etched-Brass-Kit-/...

Is it by a well known builder and/or painter? Is there something
exceptional about it?

MBQ
simon - 28 May 2010 11:30 GMT
On May 27, 11:50 pm, "simon" <nos...@nospam.com> wrote:
> http://cgi.ebay.co.uk/LNWR-Greater-Britain-2-2-2-2-Etched-Brass-Kit-/...

>Is it by a well known builder and/or painter? Is there something
>exceptional about it?

>MBQ

Not that I can see. Thought at first must be 'O' guage. Description of
pivot/springing of wheels sounds impressive, but there shouldnt be any need
for the reason given.
Cant see reason for double shafted motor either.

Cheers,
Simon
Andrew Robert Breen - 28 May 2010 11:42 GMT
>On May 27, 11:50 pm, "simon" <nos...@nospam.com> wrote:
>> http://cgi.ebay.co.uk/LNWR-Greater-Britain-2-2-2-2-Etched-Brass-Kit-/...
>
>>Is it by a well known builder and/or painter? Is there something
>>exceptional about it?

If it's in 4mm, then probably a London Road Models kit, if 7mm, probably
Scorpio..

>Not that I can see. Thought at first must be 'O' guage. Description of
>pivot/springing of wheels sounds impressive, but there shouldnt be any need
>for the reason given.
>Cant see reason for double shafted motor either.

Probably because the builder wanted to drive more than one pair of wheels
- it's not like they're coupled..

Signature

Andy Breen ~     Not speaking on behalf of the University of Wales, Aberystwyth
        Feng Shui: an ancient oriental art for extracting
        money from the gullible (Martin Sinclair)

manatbandq@hotmail.com - 28 May 2010 12:27 GMT
> In article <QpKdnYmDNYHABmLWnZ2dnUVZ7sOdn...@bt.com>,
>
[quoted text clipped - 8 lines]
> If it's in 4mm, then probably a London Road Models kit, if 7mm, probably
> Scorpio..

It quite clearly states that it is an LRM kit on 16.5mm gauge wheels,
so not even finescale.

I can't believe any normal person would bid £820 on the basis of three
small pictures on Ebay without an attribution to one of the "gods" of
loco building/painting.

MBQ
Andrew Robert Breen - 28 May 2010 12:46 GMT
>> In article <QpKdnYmDNYHABmLWnZ2dnUVZ7sOdn...@bt.com>,
>>
[quoted text clipped - 11 lines]
>It quite clearly states that it is an LRM kit on 16.5mm gauge wheels,
>so not even finescale.

When I looked it quite clearly stated that the advert had expired, and
nothing else, so I didn't have that information to hand..

>I can't believe any normal person would bid £820 on the basis of three
>small pictures on Ebay without an attribution to one of the "gods" of
>loco building/painting.

I fail to understand your point.. given the limited proportion of "normal"
(for, perhaps, "normal" definitions of "normal"..) people who'd be likely
to buy locomotive kits, let alone kit-built locomotives, let alone
kit-built locomotives of a rather rare and obscure prototype...

I'd find it interesting (and compared with O, which I was fiddling about
with to no great effect for some years, it seems positively cheap..), but
then I'm quite happily not normal :)

Signature

Andy Breen ~     Not speaking on behalf of the University of Wales, Aberystwyth
        Feng Shui: an ancient oriental art for extracting
        money from the gullible (Martin Sinclair)

simon - 28 May 2010 13:16 GMT
> In article
> <a43ef6db-8eee-4708-bab7-a227e2db98c0@v12g2000prb.googlegroups.com>,
[quoted text clipped - 29 lines]
> with to no great effect for some years, it seems positively cheap..), but
> then I'm quite happily not normal :)

Link had been chopped, so here again :-
http://cgi.ebay.co.uk/LNWR-Greater-Britain-2-2-2-2-Etched-Brass-Kit-/32053541672
4?cmd=ViewItem&pt=UK_Trains_Railway_Models&hash=item4aa1664f94


Tis a very nice loco but top class DJH completed models go for much less and
could commision such a build for far less than that. LRM models are not
difficult to build.

Cheers,
Simon
Nigel Cliffe - 28 May 2010 14:34 GMT
>> In article
>> <a43ef6db-8eee-4708-bab7-a227e2db98c0@v12g2000prb.googlegroups.com>,
[quoted text clipped - 42 lines]
> less and could commision such a build for far less than that. LRM
> models are not difficult to build.

I think its just a bidding war between two or three buyers.  That's what
auctions can do.

As for the price/cost of commissioning loco builds, how much per hour do you
think skilled time is worth ?   In the O-gauge community there seems to be
some realism on the value of a skilled builder's time. As scales decrease,
generally there appears to be, at least in the UK, is less inclination to
pay sensible rates for work.

As a marketplace, there is, of course a conflict/competition between a
skilled builder selling stuff at a realistic wage rate (to put bread on his
table and a roof over his head), and a hobby builder who just wants to sell
something for hopefully more than the parts cost.  Compounded again by sales
of collections of deceased people.

- Nigel

Signature

Nigel Cliffe,
Webmaster at http://www.2mm.org.uk/

simon - 28 May 2010 15:51 GMT
>>> In article
>>> <a43ef6db-8eee-4708-bab7-a227e2db98c0@v12g2000prb.googlegroups.com>,
[quoted text clipped - 59 lines]
>
> - Nigel

Was looking at it from what have seen available as "buy it now" on ebay as
well as some trader stalls. I dont have a view on what should be charged,
locos are a luxury item so leave to the market is my feeling. Tis
interesting that kit built 'O' guage sells at about GBP1000 compared to '00'
of GBP250, yet not sure that theres that much extra involved in the larger
guage. Perhaps its more related to the cost of RTR products. One trader
recently told me that the price of completed '00' kit locos had halved in
the past few years mainly because of the upward trend in quality of RTR
products.

as an aside, I have a birthday approaching and have been asked what would
like. Am considering a LRM LNWR kit, but the choice wont be based on
potential reseale value ;-)

cheers,
Simon

Cheers,
Simon
Paul Boyd - 28 May 2010 18:00 GMT
> I think its just a bidding war between two or three buyers.  That's what
> auctions can do.

It's also a private auction, so my suspicions would be aroused
immediately.  There's really only one reason for sellers making an
auction for something like this private, but there has to be at least
one genuine bidder!

Even so, as others have said, it seems a high price for a built model
without a "name" tag on it.

Signature

Paul Boyd
http://www.paul-boyd.me.uk/

Lester Caine - 28 May 2010 19:57 GMT
>> I think its just a bidding war between two or three buyers. That's what
>> auctions can do.
[quoted text clipped - 3 lines]
> auction for something like this private, but there has to be at least
> one genuine bidder!

ebay hides the names of bidders on all auctions now - people were using the
information about buyers to creat 'second chance' messages that funneled any
money paid into rogue accounts. Quite a large number of people had been conned!

> Even so, as others have said, it seems a high price for a built model
> without a "name" tag on it.

The pictures are not detailed enough to know just how good a model it is, so I
am probably with you on that.

Signature

Lester Caine - G8HFL
-----------------------------
Contact - http://lsces.co.uk/wiki/?page=contact
L.S.Caine Electronic Services - http://lsces.co.uk
EnquirySolve - http://enquirysolve.com/
Model Engineers Digital Workshop - http://medw.co.uk//
Firebird - http://www.firebirdsql.org/index.php

manatbandq@hotmail.com - 28 May 2010 15:14 GMT
> > In article
> > <a43ef6db-8eee-4708-bab7-a227e2db9...@v12g2000prb.googlegroups.com>,
[quoted text clipped - 38 lines]
>
> Link had been chopped,

The original link was fine. It's Ebay that are having a few problems.

MBQ
 
Sign In
Join
My Latest Posts
My Monitored Threads
My Blog
My Photo Gallery
My Profile
My Homepage

Start New Thread
Enable EMail Alerts
Rate this Thread



©2012 Advenet LLC   Privacy Policy - Terms of Use
This website includes both content owned or controlled by Advenet as well as content owned or controlled by third parties.