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simon - 13 Sep 2010 19:46 GMT
Thought would try Railmatch LMS Crimson Lake instead of own mix from
Humbrol. However it is gloss and much darker than I like, does matt varnish
tone it down ? Any suggestions as to what colour to add to lighten it a
little (or even a medium amount)?

Cheers,
Simon
Greg Procter - 13 Sep 2010 22:32 GMT
>   Thought would try Railmatch LMS Crimson Lake instead of own mix from
> Humbrol. However it is gloss and much darker than I like, does matt varnish
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> Cheers,
> Simon

Adding matt varnish over gloss paint will _sort of_ work, but you'd be
better to buy semi-gloss if that's what you want to end up with.
Adding extra layers just gunges the sharp detailing.

If you want to tone down any colour just add white - a very small amount
at a time!
Straw/yellow will brighten while lightening, yellow/orange will lighten
while
brightening and accentuating the red end.
White plus black in equal quantities will dull the colour.
etc.

You might have seen an artist's colour wheel:
........purple
red, ........ blue
orange,...... green.
.......yellow,
(hope that looks right on your screen)

Red, blue, yellow are the primary colours and purple, green and orange
are the intermediates.
The three above the middle darken, the three below lighten.
(assuming you're modifying a medium shade)
White or black lighten or darken the tone.

Greg.P.
simon - 13 Sep 2010 22:40 GMT
>>   Thought would try Railmatch LMS Crimson Lake instead of own mix from
>> Humbrol. However it is gloss and much darker than I like, does matt
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>
> Greg.P.

Thanks for that, will have a go....

cheers,
Simon
simon - 14 Sep 2010 20:48 GMT
>>   Thought would try Railmatch LMS Crimson Lake instead of own mix from
>> Humbrol. However it is gloss and much darker than I like, does matt
[quoted text clipped - 31 lines]
>
> Greg.P.

Gave it a try with small amount in seperate tin. Added about 5 per cent
Humbrol matt white and 15-20 per cent thinner (was a bit thick). Has
lightened it slightly, could have done bit more though. Interestingly it has
removed a lot of the gloss look - that I do like, else would have to dump
full tin.
Wasnt too worried about losing detail as there isnt a lot on an old
whitemetal Flatiron :-) However, when do a compound - no, not too much
detail on that either :-)
However the old brass Patriot, now that has some excellent detail, so this
method will be perfect !
Thanks for advice,

Cheers,
Simon

ps anyone any idea what make the Patriot kit is. At least 95% inc tender is
brass. Detail bits top class (also brass). Tender rivets look wow.
 
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