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andy - 28 Dec 2003 17:52 GMT
im after a freightliner 66, is it worth buying a lima one off ebay at a
hugely inflated price or waiting for the heljan one?, when is it coming out
and will it be better than the lima one?, and why dont hornby make one in
anything other than EWS livery!?
DJO - 28 Dec 2003 18:05 GMT
You'd be very daft or desperate to get a Lima one now, unless you can get it
for less than £20 or so it really isn't worth it. The problem will be
getting hold of spare parts in the future, no Lima means no spares. Perhaps
Hornby ringfield brushes would fit but then again perhaps not.

There is no doubt that the Heljan version will be much much better quality
than Lima. It will undoubtedly be like their other locos, all wheel drive
and pickups, vastly superior body moulding and DCC socket ready. Look around
the web and compare the Heljan Hymek and 47 with the Hornby versions of
these models (and Lima in the case of the 47).

As for your Hornby comment, do you mean another class as they don't make a
66?

Djo
> im after a freightliner 66, is it worth buying a lima one off ebay at a
> hugely inflated price or waiting for the heljan one?, when is it coming out
> and will it be better than the lima one?, and why dont hornby make one in
> anything other than EWS livery!?
andy - 28 Dec 2003 18:13 GMT
thanks for that, most of the lima ones on ebay seem to go for around
£60 -£70 !,

any idea when the heljan one is coming out?

I must have been thinking of the lima EWS 66's, but very suprised that
Hornby dont make one, after all they are the most numerous locos on the
railway these days and to model a modern image layout you really do need one
or two, lima must have had a field day with no competition!?

> You'd be very daft or desperate to get a Lima one now, unless you can get it
> for less than £20 or so it really isn't worth it. The problem will be
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John Turner - 28 Dec 2003 19:07 GMT
> any idea when the heljan one is coming out?

Early in 2004 ................. allegedly!  ;-)

John.
Nick Gurney - 28 Dec 2003 20:31 GMT
>Early in 2004 ................. allegedly!  ;-)

Mid 2004 now :-( is what Kim told me at Warley.

Nick
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Keith Norgrove - 28 Dec 2003 19:42 GMT
>There is no doubt that the Heljan version will be much much better quality
>than Lima. It will undoubtedly be like their other locos, all wheel drive
>and pickups, vastly superior body moulding and DCC socket ready.

The class 47 does NOT have all wheel drive! The body is overwidth.
Will they do better with their next Co-Co? Probably on the body
dubious on the drive unless they decide to keep up with Hornby.
Keith

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DJO - 28 Dec 2003 19:54 GMT
You live and learn! I only havea Hymek myself and assumed the same went for
the 47.

> >There is no doubt that the Heljan version will be much much better quality
> >than Lima. It will undoubtedly be like their other locos, all wheel drive
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Colin - 28 Dec 2003 21:05 GMT
The quality of Heljan should produce a good class 66.......

If you're only concerned about the spares then Tech-Cad (Scotland) soon
intend to produce better motor/drive systems for the 6-wheeled ex-Lima
models......*priority* will then be given to the 4-wheeled ex-Lima
models........
www.techcad-design.com

Colin Meredith.
Ian Bartlett - 28 Dec 2003 22:04 GMT
Haven't Bcahmann also got a 66 planned ?  Thought it was another one of
those duplication issues, as with the 57.

I'm quite possibly wrong, but I thought that was on the cards.

Happy New Year to all, by the way, just in case I don't get back on here
before 31 December.

Cheers, Ian

> The quality of Heljan should produce a good class 66.......
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Andrew Sollis CVMRD - 31 Dec 2003 10:52 GMT
> Haven't Bcahmann also got a 66 planned ?  Thought it was another one of
> those duplication issues, as with the 57.
Ian

Ian,
   I believe your correct, but with how long it takes Bachmann to produce
one, the Heljan will have been out about 3 years before the public see
anything of it ! They will see how good it will be, and hopefully not waist
their time and efforts into duplicating which will possibly be an inferior
copy, and put there efforts into something like a 67 or a prototype Deltic !
Andy
:-)
Ian Bartlett - 31 Dec 2003 18:16 GMT
> > Haven't Bcahmann also got a 66 planned ?  Thought it was another one of
> > those duplication issues, as with the 57.
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> Andy
> :-)

Thoroughly agree Andy - crossed my mind that Bachmann wouldn't exactly
have it ready by 2004!

Cheers and happy new year to all.

Ian
 
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