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Model Forum / Radio Controlled / Water Models / December 2003Need help withr Rudder linkage...PLEASE!
Hi.... This is my first post in the boat section, but I frequent the Slop forums all the time....I've never had any kind of water craft before and a friend and I picked up a couple cheap RC Surfers to try an modify. I have 2 problems left: 1.) Getting an airtight seal. Should there be NO water when you remov a hatch, not even a few drops....Or is that "normal" to have a fe drops here and there in boats.....??? 2.) This thing came with this little motor to control the rudder and tore that out and am replacing that with a Hitec HS-85MG servo. No m problem lies in understanding how to link the servo to th rudder....Here's a very rudimentary drawing of how it's set up and wha I need to do. I have all the tools I need to do anything, but a clueless on how to design something that will work. Here's what I have, and ANY suggestions would be helpful. +---------------------------------------------------------------- | Attachment filename: clean.jpg |Download attachment: http://www.rcgroups.com/forums/attachment.php?postid=1624215 +---------------------------------------------------------------- - tenover - Certified Slopehea ---------------------------------------------------------------------------------- Posted from the RCGroups.com Discussion Forums Visit us at http://www.rcgroups.com <------- Win free R/C Gear View this thread at rcgroups.com: http://www.rcgroups.com/forums/showthread.php?threadid=18035 This is what I was thinking, if I can somehow find a way to attach servo horn or something to the plastic rudder.....would this provid enough throw? +---------------------------------------------------------------- | Attachment filename: possible1.jpg |Download attachment: http://www.rcgroups.com/forums/attachment.php?postid=1624218 +---------------------------------------------------------------- - tenover - Certified Slopehea ---------------------------------------------------------------------------------- Posted from the RCGroups.com Discussion Forums Visit us at http://www.rcgroups.com <------- Win free R/C Gear View this thread at rcgroups.com: http://www.rcgroups.com/forums/showthread.php?threadid=18035 Yes, I'm a newbee.....Man, I didn't think I'd run into anyone I "knew over here in the boat section - tenover - Certified Slopehea ---------------------------------------------------------------------------------- Posted from the RCGroups.com Discussion Forums Visit us at http://www.rcgroups.com <------- Win free R/C Gear View this thread at rcgroups.com: http://www.rcgroups.com/forums/showthread.php?threadid=18035 What are you ?, a newbe ? :) Just set it up like an 'air' control surface - William A - Member Senio ---------------------------------------------------------------------------------- Posted from the RCGroups.com Discussion Forums Visit us at http://www.rcgroups.com <------- Win free R/C Gear View this thread at rcgroups.com: http://www.rcgroups.com/forums/showthread.php?threadid=18035 Does it already have a water tight linkage pass-thru ? A simple inner+outer brass tube set-up should work. Toughest part might be getting a good horn to rudder adhesion - William A - Member Senio ---------------------------------------------------------------------------------- Posted from the RCGroups.com Discussion Forums Visit us at http://www.rcgroups.com <------- Win free R/C Gear View this thread at rcgroups.com: http://www.rcgroups.com/forums/showthread.php?threadid=18035 That's exactly what I'm trying to figure out now.....The hole throug the hole is DEFINITLEY not water tight. I suppose I can either "pot the shaft with eopxy in the hole or use silicone for that, no - tenover - Certified Slopehea ---------------------------------------------------------------------------------- Posted from the RCGroups.com Discussion Forums Visit us at http://www.rcgroups.com <------- Win free R/C Gear View this thread at rcgroups.com: http://www.rcgroups.com/forums/showthread.php?threadid=18035 First get rid of the circle on servo and put an arm on it but don't pu screw in till after centering is done. Use the outside hole on arm an on the rudder make the hole about 3/8" from rudder which will turn mor with hole close to rudder. Where the wire goes thru the boat fro rudder to servo get 1/16" hollow plastic tubing from hobby shop an when done with that put grease in plastic tube around wire and nea grease into it to keep water out. You can use the yellow ribbed gol and tie for airplanes which is the same size . Remember to put outdoo goop around tubing inside and outside and let dry for a day. Send m you're email and i will send a close up of mine! - harry m ---------------------------------------------------------------------------------- Posted from the RCGroups.com Discussion Forums Visit us at http://www.rcgroups.com <------- Win free R/C Gear View this thread at rcgroups.com: http://www.rcgroups.com/forums/showthread.php?threadid=18035 Where did the photo go?:confused: try: http://www.astecmodels.co.uk/products.php?posted=1&selection=accessory towards bottom of page +---------------------------------------------------------------- | Attachment filename: smbellows.jpg |Download attachment: http://www.rcgroups.com/forums/attachment.php?postid=1625431 +---------------------------------------------------------------- - martin richards - Useful Idio ---------------------------------------------------------------------------------- Posted from the RCGroups.com Discussion Forums Visit us at http://www.rcgroups.com <------- Win free R/C Gear View this thread at rcgroups.com: http://www.rcgroups.com/forums/showthread.php?threadid=18035 Tenover, Any more progress? What components (motor/ESC) are you going to put i your setup? I am still trying to figure out an ESC for mine. The CC Phoenix marin seems to be nice but at $180 is too pricey. The other Phoeni controllers don't work with a pistol grip controller. I still need t check out other brushless controllers. I have a couple brushles motors that I will try to start. Hopefully one will work. Perhaps the best alternative would be to just run it stock- on/of motor switch controlled by a servo and all and see how it works. I did just get some hatch sealing foam tape from the local marine stor to replace the stock foam that people complain about. The temperature is suppose to break 40 here toward the end of the wee and there is no ice buildup on Lake Michigan yet... Better get tha foam tape installed and a battery pack made up. Just wish I had som waders - Joe ---------------------------------------------------------------------------------- Posted from the RCGroups.com Discussion Forums Visit us at http://www.rcgroups.com <------- Win free R/C Gear View this thread at rcgroups.com: http://www.rcgroups.com/forums/showthread.php?threadid=18035 They aren't worth the powder to blow them up cause they tear real eas unless you insert the whole unit from inside and just have the nibbl showing. been there , done that! They are very expensive and the las year have gone up 100% in price, no way Jose - harry m ---------------------------------------------------------------------------------- Posted from the RCGroups.com Discussion Forums Visit us at http://www.rcgroups.com <------- Win free R/C Gear View this thread at rcgroups.com: http://www.rcgroups.com/forums/showthread.php?threadid=18035 So tenover, you got me so geeked about this surfer thing that I had t get one. I got a Kyosho Surfer Dude. I am curious if anyone has put brushless motor in one? I don't like the on off switch controlled by a servo and would like ESC with BEC. Rather then buy a brushed ESC I would rather put th money toward a brushless motor and ESC. Any advice anyone - Joe ---------------------------------------------------------------------------------- Posted from the RCGroups.com Discussion Forums Visit us at http://www.rcgroups.com <------- Win free R/C Gear View this thread at rcgroups.com: http://www.rcgroups.com/forums/showthread.php?threadid=18035 What i think , is the brushless motor maybe be to powerful for th surfer and i would email the manufacturer and see what they have t say. One item is you're wallet better have deep pockets cause they ar not CHEAP. An alternative maybe a Chameleon 2 #2110 with 33,000 rpm an use a brushed Rc-hydros esc without a bec due to radio interference and also go to fm tx and fm rx and then maybe a bec will work if radi grade is very good, it makes a difference - harry m ---------------------------------------------------------------------------------- Posted from the RCGroups.com Discussion Forums Visit us at http://www.rcgroups.com <------- Win free R/C Gear View this thread at rcgroups.com: http://www.rcgroups.com/forums/showthread.php?threadid=18035 So tenover, you got me so geeked about this surfer thing that I had t get one. I got a Kyosho Surfer Dude. I am curious if anyone has put brushless motor in one? I don't like the on off switch controlled by a servo and would like ESC with BEC. Rather then buy a brushed ESC I would rather put th money toward a brushless motor and ESC. Any advice anyone - Joe ---------------------------------------------------------------------------------- Posted from the RCGroups.com Discussion Forums Visit us at http://www.rcgroups.com <------- Win free R/C Gear View this thread at rcgroups.com: http://www.rcgroups.com/forums/showthread.php?threadid=18035 What i think , is the brushless motor maybe be to powerful for th surfer and i would email the manufacturer and see what they have t say. One item is you're wallet better have deep pockets cause they ar not CHEAP. An alternative maybe a Chameleon 2 #2110 with 33,000 rpm an use a brushed Rc-hydros esc without a bec due to radio interference and also go to fm tx and fm rx and then maybe a bec will work if radi grade is very good, it makes a difference - harry m ---------------------------------------------------------------------------------- Posted from the RCGroups.com Discussion Forums Visit us at http://www.rcgroups.com <------- Win free R/C Gear View this thread at rcgroups.com: http://www.rcgroups.com/forums/showthread.php?threadid=18035 Hey Joe.... Man, you're stoked! Wish I could get my hands on one of the Kyosh Surfers. Lots of guys are using brushless motors in them with grea results, along with a 3300mah NIMH, getting around 20 minute runtime i the surf. I have one of the so called "cheap" ones, but I think i looks waaaay better than any others I've seen, and I've already bee modifying it so much that I think it will hold it's own. Here's som REALLY good links I think you'll enjoy... 'Here's my all around favorite....rcsurf.com' (http://rcsurf.com) 'Here's a good one with lot's of info an \"how-to's\".......surfrc.com' (http://www.surfrc.com) 'Here's one from Australia that has AWESOME pictures an videos...You'll be shocked at what these little things can do in th surf!' (http://www.rcsurfing.net/) 'And here's one dedicated to your Kyosho Surfer Dude.... (http://www.rcsurfers.com.au/home.htm) And last but not least, here's a picture of my guy, with my custo painted wetsuit.....He comes just with trunks and no shirt +---------------------------------------------------------------- | Attachment filename: kssmall.jpg |Download attachment: http://www.rcgroups.com/forums/attachment.php?postid=1634699 +---------------------------------------------------------------- - tenover - Certified Slopehea ---------------------------------------------------------------------------------- Posted from the RCGroups.com Discussion Forums Visit us at http://www.rcgroups.com <------- Win free R/C Gear View this thread at rcgroups.com: http://www.rcgroups.com/forums/showthread.php?threadid=18035 How 'bout a pic of that rudder mod your doing ? -- William A - Member Senior ----------------------------------------------------------------------------------- Posted from the RCGroups.com Discussion Forums. Visit us at http://www.rcgroups.com <------- Win free R/C Gear! View this thread at rcgroups.com: http://www.rcgroups.com/forums/showthread.php?threadid=180350 It's still an issue....Where the rudder comes out of the upper hole inside the surfboard, I will only have a bout 1/4" to play with unles I dremel some of the board material away so that the hatch will fi down into the slot. Here's the first pic.....This is looking towards the rear of the board where the rudder will come out (Last hole at the rear center of th board... +---------------------------------------------------------------- | Attachment filename: rcks 003.jpg |Download attachment: http://www.rcgroups.com/forums/attachment.php?postid=1634980 +---------------------------------------------------------------- - tenover - Certified Slopehea ---------------------------------------------------------------------------------- Posted from the RCGroups.com Discussion Forums Visit us at http://www.rcgroups.com <------- Win free R/C Gear View this thread at rcgroups.com: http://www.rcgroups.com/forums/showthread.php?threadid=18035 Pic2...Close up of rudder hol +---------------------------------------------------------------- | Attachment filename: rcks 004.jpg |Download attachment: http://www.rcgroups.com/forums/attachment.php?postid=1634981 +---------------------------------------------------------------- - tenover - Certified Slopehea ---------------------------------------------------------------------------------- Posted from the RCGroups.com Discussion Forums Visit us at http://www.rcgroups.com <------- Win free R/C Gear View this thread at rcgroups.com: http://www.rcgroups.com/forums/showthread.php?threadid=18035 Here's a shot of the bottom of the board, where the rudder goes u through it... +---------------------------------------------------------------- | Attachment filename: rcks 005.jpg |Download attachment: http://www.rcgroups.com/forums/attachment.php?postid=1634982 +---------------------------------------------------------------- - tenover - Certified Slopehea ---------------------------------------------------------------------------------- Posted from the RCGroups.com Discussion Forums Visit us at http://www.rcgroups.com <------- Win free R/C Gear View this thread at rcgroups.com: http://www.rcgroups.com/forums/showthread.php?threadid=18035 Here's a shot of the rudder in the boat....I put the o-ring on th rudder, seems it'll help with a seal +---------------------------------------------------------------- | Attachment filename: rcks 007.jpg |Download attachment: http://www.rcgroups.com/forums/attachment.php?postid=1634990 +---------------------------------------------------------------- - tenover - Certified Slopehea ---------------------------------------------------------------------------------- Posted from the RCGroups.com Discussion Forums Visit us at http://www.rcgroups.com <------- Win free R/C Gear View this thread at rcgroups.com: http://www.rcgroups.com/forums/showthread.php?threadid=18035 Take a wheel collar and solder a brass servo horn onto it and then us the set screw to lock it to the rudder post. If you are going to replace the rudder, find some brass tubing tha will fit into the hole, or drill out the hole to fit a piece of bras tubing. Then use a brass rod that fits the tubing I.D. and build you custom rudder on that. Then there will be no question that you wil get a close tolerance fit at the rudder post this way. You can go a step further and put some bushings in the tube and use slightly smaller rod for the rudder post. Then you can place som petroleum jelly, or white lithium grease in the tubing to help seal ou any water. Double sticky tape, silicone, or, CA a piece of balsa to the servo then then CA that to the hull. Silicone should work fine if there i not too much torque on the rudder - Umi_Ryuzuk Nyow! / =^o^ ---------------------------------------------------------------------------------- Posted from the RCGroups.com Discussion Forums Visit us at http://www.rcgroups.com <------- Win free R/C Gear View this thread at rcgroups.com: http://www.rcgroups.com/forums/showthread.php?threadid=18035 Here's a shot of the rudder...Pretty basic. I will be making my ow modified ones in the future that are just a single skeg... +---------------------------------------------------------------- | Attachment filename: rcks 006.jpg |Download attachment: http://www.rcgroups.com/forums/attachment.php?postid=1634986 +---------------------------------------------------------------- - tenover - Certified Slopehea ---------------------------------------------------------------------------------- Posted from the RCGroups.com Discussion Forums Visit us at http://www.rcgroups.com <------- Win free R/C Gear View this thread at rcgroups.com: http://www.rcgroups.com/forums/showthread.php?threadid=18035 Here's a picture of what I thought I would do....Somehow mount the serv here (tape, CA, epoxy...??) and have a small pushrod going straight t a homemade "horn" somehow attached to the rudder shaft. Any ideas o suggestions? Harry sent me some pics of what he has done on a coupl of his boats and it's pretty much what I was thinking, but if anyon else has some different options, please throw them out. One of m objectives is to be able to easily replace the rudder when it breaks and be able to do the same little mod to future rudders (mounting som sort of horn to the shaft) without too much trouble... +---------------------------------------------------------------- | Attachment filename: rcks 008.jpg |Download attachment: http://www.rcgroups.com/forums/attachment.php?postid=1635006 +---------------------------------------------------------------- - tenover - Certified Slopehea ---------------------------------------------------------------------------------- Posted from the RCGroups.com Discussion Forums Visit us at http://www.rcgroups.com <------- Win free R/C Gear View this thread at rcgroups.com: http://www.rcgroups.com/forums/showthread.php?threadid=18035 > *(tape, CA, epoxy...??)*Shoe-Goo. Personally, I'd stick with the original rudder design. Looking at it's shape/design, it definitely plays a role in keeping i 'stuck' to the surface. I also think that the 'brass tube inside another brass tube' (lube with petroleum jelly) is about your only route. A horn could be made from a set collar and thin brass sheeting. What is the rudder made from ?, plastic ?. Could you fab another from thin brass ? - William A - Member Senio ---------------------------------------------------------------------------------- Posted from the RCGroups.com Discussion Forums Visit us at http://www.rcgroups.com <------- Win free R/C Gear View this thread at rcgroups.com: http://www.rcgroups.com/forums/showthread.php?threadid=18035 Wow, almost word for word. Umi, are you my long lost, forgotten twin - William A - Member Senio ---------------------------------------------------------------------------------- Posted from the RCGroups.com Discussion Forums Visit us at http://www.rcgroups.com <------- Win free R/C Gear View this thread at rcgroups.com: http://www.rcgroups.com/forums/showthread.php?threadid=18035 Yeah, the rudder is just plastic, so I guess I could shape a rudder fro thin brass or aluminum and solder it to a brass post. Thanks for th suggestons about using a brass horn, collar, and set screw to attac it.....Sounds easy enough - tenover - Certified Slopehea ---------------------------------------------------------------------------------- Posted from the RCGroups.com Discussion Forums Visit us at http://www.rcgroups.com <------- Win free R/C Gear View this thread at rcgroups.com: http://www.rcgroups.com/forums/showthread.php?threadid=18035 I think someone is close by putting brass tubing around shaft and the another size bigger and so on and then solder the inner pieces togethe and use heavy grease around shaft and being you're in a warm climate the thickness of grease won't have a negative effect. Like someon mentioned to put a collar around brass shaft and put a flat spot s shaft can only go so far and the n put a collar on the bottom too. Se screw will go in flat area of which you know. I think this will be th best system and won't freeze up on you. The wire or what you are goin to use from servo arm to rudder arm better not be to heavy or stron cause you need some flex and will keep things from binding - harry m ---------------------------------------------------------------------------------- Posted from the RCGroups.com Discussion Forums Visit us at http://www.rcgroups.com <------- Win free R/C Gear View this thread at rcgroups.com: http://www.rcgroups.com/forums/showthread.php?threadid=18035 RETIRE - harry m ---------------------------------------------------------------------------------- Posted from the RCGroups.com Discussion Forums Visit us at http://www.rcgroups.com <------- Win free R/C Gear View this thread at rcgroups.com: http://www.rcgroups.com/forums/showthread.php?threadid=18035 tenover, do you know what brushless setups people are using? What ar you going to put in yours? I think your surfer is a little smalle then the Kyosho, correct? Harry- Brushless motors- My point of reference is with RC helicopters. I know many people using a Mega 16/15/3 in place of a 540 brushed ca motor in smaller RC helicopters. They are not that expensive, $80 fo the motor. If it will work. Not sure why it would not. This Mega ha a 3000 rpm/volt rating. I have seen somewhere people mentioning ca motors with similar rpm/volt ratings for the "dude". I have Kontronic 400/28 that is about the same size as the Mega 16/15/3 bu has a 2800 rpm/volt rating. Any idea what the rpm/volt of the Chameleon you mention? How man cells does it take to get the 33,000 rpm? Not sure about the interference issue. My radio is an AM version. brushless motors do not have near as much problems with generatin interference as brushed motors in my experience. I will have to check with Castle Creations on these issues. Hopefull one of their controllers will work. Its winter here in Michigan so I have some time to figure it all out Though yesterday and today almost reached 40 with some good wind. Perhaps I should have given it a try. Thanks, jo - Joe ---------------------------------------------------------------------------------- Posted from the RCGroups.com Discussion Forums Visit us at http://www.rcgroups.com <------- Win free R/C Gear View this thread at rcgroups.com: http://www.rcgroups.com/forums/showthread.php?threadid=18035 You know , it sounds like you're giving me **** ! You are mixing apple and oranges! Helicopters and boats are two different stories! Boat are harder on motors than anything else! What do you mean brushless ar cheaper than; you forget the controller for brushless from castle is i the range of $150.00 for at least a 80 amp unit. Maybe the $80.00 Meg is too small. I was only trying to help this gentleman and at first h did not mention surfer but wanted to know how to make a rudder an linkage but that was all. Nothing was mentioned other than that. I sounds like you are trying to belittle a senior citizen and sure sound like it and like my post ahead of this said--- RETIRED. I think tha is enough said and i want no more. I didn't profess to be an expert an all further messages will be deleted. I have my own fleet and will kee info i know to myself cause am self taught and know what works and no works and you go figure you're own like i did!! Good -bye! - harry m ---------------------------------------------------------------------------------- Posted from the RCGroups.com Discussion Forums Visit us at http://www.rcgroups.com <------- Win free R/C Gear View this thread at rcgroups.com: http://www.rcgroups.com/forums/showthread.php?threadid=18035 Harry- I had no intentions of offending. Please accept my appologies if I did. All I was doing is looking for information. I know nothing about boats and am just trying to learn. You offered information that no one else did so I thank you for that. I was just trying to probe a little deeper. As I said my point of reference are helicopters which are known for being hard on equipment also. They require full time 100% throttle or very close to it. The one thing they have over boats is a easier time getting cooling (I think anyway). People have been mounting fans under the canopy or cutting holes to allow the rotor wash to circulate I know CC sells a Marine controller that is rated to 80 amps but is 80 amps required when using 6 cells packs? I was hoping that I could get away with a smaller one. As I said I do not know anything about boats. I will start a different thread now rather than continue to take up space with info unrelated to Tenover's original post. Thanks, Joe -- JoeR ----------------------------------------------------------------------------------- Posted from the RCGroups.com Discussion Forums. Visit us at http://www.rcgroups.com <------- Win free R/C Gear! View this thread at rcgroups.com: http://www.rcgroups.com/forums/showthread.php?threadid=180350 No worries Joe- Since no one has these, I think we should just keep it all togethe anyway - tenover - Certified Slopehea ---------------------------------------------------------------------------------- Posted from the RCGroups.com Discussion Forums Visit us at http://www.rcgroups.com <------- Win free R/C Gear View this thread at rcgroups.com: http://www.rcgroups.com/forums/showthread.php?threadid=18035 Thanks Tenover, Have you seen any of these with brushless motors? If so, what ar people running in them? I contacted CC about a Phoenix. Shawn said that all but the Marine ES has problems with the pistol grip radios. I guess they need mor throttle range then pistol grip radios have. He said they will "marine"-ize (my term) any of their controllers i asked. I guess that means they will dip them in silicone before shrin wrapping. Since my surfer came with a pistol grip radio I am out o luck though. Evidently the marine version does not need any water cooling though. Unfortunately the Marine, with appropriate software for a pistol gri radio, only comes in the 80 amp size and it is $180. He did also say that AM radios are no problem - Joe ---------------------------------------------------------------------------------- Posted from the RCGroups.com Discussion Forums Visit us at http://www.rcgroups.com <------- Win free R/C Gear View this thread at rcgroups.com: http://www.rcgroups.com/forums/showthread.php?threadid=18035 I have no idea what kind of BL motors people are running, but I know read it on one of those links above....Mine came with a pistol grip but I tore ALL the guts out of mine and am replacing it all with my ow FM stuff and using a 2-stick radio - tenover - Certified Slopehea ---------------------------------------------------------------------------------- Posted from the RCGroups.com Discussion Forums Visit us at http://www.rcgroups.com <------- Win free R/C Gear View this thread at rcgroups.com: http://www.rcgroups.com/forums/showthread.php?threadid=18035 Well if motor cooling is an issue, then a boat would be a very tight an confined space to place a hot motor. You would need to add a cooling coil and a water uptake, and output. I is fairly simple. The coil can be made out of copper tubing woun around the motor. uptakes are typically placed behind the propellers and out put can be anywhere out the side of the hull. It can all b connected with fuel tubing. Just some speculation, but they may have that forked rudder, so that i you are riding a large boat, or jetski wake, or actual surf, then on of the rudders will stay in the water as you cut the face of the wave - Umi_Ryuzuk Nyow! / =^o^ ---------------------------------------------------------------------------------- Posted from the RCGroups.com Discussion Forums Visit us at http://www.rcgroups.com <------- Win free R/C Gear View this thread at rcgroups.com: http://www.rcgroups.com/forums/showthread.php?threadid=18035 That's exactly what everyones doing....cooling coil/input/output, an their actually installing tiny skegs in the rear that are purel cosmetic except for the fact that there's little holes in the front o each one that will take in water and route it through the tubes on eac side of the hull.....You can kind of get an idea with this picture +---------------------------------------------------------------- | Attachment filename: rcsurfmod.jpg |Download attachment: http://www.rcgroups.com/forums/attachment.php?postid=1637661 +---------------------------------------------------------------- - tenover - Certified Slopehea ---------------------------------------------------------------------------------- Posted from the RCGroups.com Discussion Forums Visit us at http://www.rcgroups.com <------- Win free R/C Gear View this thread at rcgroups.com: http://www.rcgroups.com/forums/showthread.php?threadid=18035 Hey Joe.... Man, you're stoked! Wish I could get my hands on one of the Kyosh Surfers. Lots of guys are using brushless motors in them with grea results, along with a 3300mah NIMH, getting around 20 minute runtime i the surf. I have one of the so called "cheap" ones, but I think i looks waaaay better than any others I've seen, and I've already bee modifying it so much that I think it will hold it's own. Here's som REALLY good links I think you'll enjoy... 'Here's my all around favorite....rcsurf.com' (http://rcsurf.com) 'Here's a good one with lot's of info an \"how-to's\".......surfrc.com' (http://www.surfrc.com) 'Here's one from Australia that has AWESOME pictures an videos...You'll be shocked at what these little things can do in th surf!' (http://www.rcsurfing.net/) 'And here's one dedicated to your Kyosho Surfer Dude.... (http://www.rcsurfers.com.au/home.htm) And last but not least, here's a picture of my guy, with my custo painted wetsuit.....He comes just with trunks and no shirt +---------------------------------------------------------------- | Attachment filename: kssmall.jpg |Download attachment: http://www.rcgroups.com/forums/attachment.php?postid=1634699 +---------------------------------------------------------------- - tenover - Certified Slopehea ---------------------------------------------------------------------------------- Posted from the RCGroups.com Discussion Forums Visit us at http://www.rcgroups.com <------- Win free R/C Gear View this thread at rcgroups.com: http://www.rcgroups.com/forums/showthread.php?threadid=18035 A few drops is par for the course. Another idea for the pushrod exit i one of these bellows. They are Graupner, so might be available fro Hobby Lobby. Presumably you have the rudder outboard - martin richards - Useful Idio ---------------------------------------------------------------------------------- Posted from the RCGroups.com Discussion Forums Visit us at http://www.rcgroups.com <------- Win free R/C Gear View this thread at rcgroups.com: http://www.rcgroups.com/forums/showthread.php?threadid=18035 Hey Joe- The weather here right now is sunny and 70......Perfect winter weather huh? I just got a 60amp Astro ESC that I will use along with a bigge motor (but not brushless.....yet). Good luck, and keep me updated o your progress - tenover - Certified Slopehea ---------------------------------------------------------------------------------- Posted from the RCGroups.com Discussion Forums Visit us at http://www.rcgroups.com <------- Win free R/C Gear View this thread at rcgroups.com: http://www.rcgroups.com/forums/showthread.php?threadid=18035 |
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