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Tom Gardner - 11 Apr 2004 03:52 GMT
It's getting to be spring and young men's thoughts turn to....FISHING!!!
Every year a bunch of us go to Canada and stalk the 50" Great Northern Pike.
Over the years I have hatched some bizarre schemes to get an edge on these
monsters, some have worked, some get laughs.  This year I want a
radio-controlled boat to pull a bait in areas that I just can't get into
with the big boat
without spooking the fish or getting hung-up.  My plan is to use a
planerboard release on the boat with about a 10'-20' lead to some
appropriate bait.  The fish hits the bait, the release pops, I land fish, I
release fish, repeat.  Searching around for the appropriate boat has been
fruitless.  Either the boat is too fast, too small, too unstable, too
expensive, too inefficient, etc.  The ideal boat would be about 24" - 36"
with a wide beam, be able to go slow and be maneuverable, have long battery
life (hours) and have a
method of charging.  This year is a drive-in on logging roads, not a fly-in
so I will have access to the van's power systems.  Oh,  BTW, I don't want to
spend a lot, maybe $100 or so.  Any ideas?  I do have an old Futaba 2 ch.
with 1 servo.  I also have a absolutely complete machine shop and wood shop.
Want to sell me an old RC
boat?

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m   ~¿Ô   m - 11 Apr 2004 06:47 GMT
> It's getting to be spring and young men's thoughts turn to....FISHING!!!
> Every year a bunch of us go to Canada and stalk the 50" Great Northern
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> shop. Want to sell me an old RC
> boat?

Have you considered a sailboat?
You would need two servos to handle the rudder and sails.
Battery life is a plus, stable, efficent, this model has a shallower draft
than many sailboats in this size range. Maybe more important quiet and fun
to sail.

http://www.victor-model.com/soling1m.html
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Tom Gardner - 11 Apr 2004 14:40 GMT
> Have you considered a sailboat?
> You would need two servos to handle the rudder and sails.
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> http://www.victor-model.com/soling1m.html

Thanks!  I did concider a sailboat but in most of the coves that I will
target, the wind is very unpredictable and swirls like a toilet bowl and I
need very precise movement.  Noise isn't really a problem except a 15 hp gas
outboard, actually the Pike are stupid and attracted to a small commotion.
I'm thinking of carving a block of foam and using a small motor and a 2 ch.
I was hoping to find something off the shelf cheap or used.
Gary R. Schmidt - 11 Apr 2004 15:37 GMT
>>Have you considered a sailboat?
>>You would need two servos to handle the rudder and sails.
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> I'm thinking of carving a block of foam and using a small motor and a 2 ch.
> I was hoping to find something off the shelf cheap or used.

In MMI, there is an advertisement by Pegasus Models,
<http;//www.pegasus.co.uk>, which includes a "Bait Boat/Feeder", quoting:
"A bait feeder specifically designed to place your hook, weights and
ground bait where required.
Specifications:
31" Long
11" Beam
1kg Payload

New 3 channel version complete R.T.R UKPounds 269"

If you are a barbarian, 1kg ~= 2.2 pounds avoirdupois.

    Cheers,
        Gary    B-)

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Dick Johnson - 03 May 2004 20:55 GMT
Gary:

A few years back RC Boat Modeler Mag had a construction article for a
"GOFER"  A twin hull catamaran arrangement
that was used for retreiving stalled models boat without geting wet.   Each
rectangular  hull was about   20-25 " long . and 4" wide and 5 " tall The
two hulls are bridged across thee top so that the combination was about
20 -25" wide and 6" tall .   Each hull had a motor, prop, and proportional
controller and half the battery power . Mine uses two 6 volt 4 aHr gel cells
connected in parallel .

I couldn't locate the plans so I built my GOFUR  from memory   I built mine
to be very rugged ( and a bit heavy)
The design is not critical, but do test float the critter before drilling
for the prop shafts.  Consider some sort of keel stubs to guard thr props
when out of the water. (lessons learned).

The boat uses 2 RC channels  The are no rudders.   In use, both motors are
put ahead full .  One side is always a little bit strongerthan the other so
that the boat  will go in a  wide circle.    You need only to back off on
the strong side to match power and  get the thing to run straight,  It takes
about 3 minutes to get the hang of it.  It  will spin in its own length when
one side is going ahead and the other side is in reverse.  You can use
inexpensive surplus motors since this craft will never win any speed trials
in any case.   You  can't  beat this dedign for  stability  and
manouverability . My motors draw 3 a. at full power and turn 3 " plastic
props  .This combination moves my 20 lb GOFUR a a brisk walking pace     The
design does require 2  proportional control units.  This is the main cost.

If you put a wire basket over the props your fishing line wouldn't foul and
it might give some weed protection..   I  think that a 3 lb. Black Bass
could be handled nicely with this rig  given some sort of springiness to
maintain line tension in the line attachment method.  It also would easily
take a clip release so you could tow a lure and use a regular rod.

Good fishin

Dick Johnson
John Mianowski - 04 May 2004 15:53 GMT
For something similar, but totally weedless, see:

http://www.jkmiller.net/ntxbg/pgDamageReport/pgRecoveryCraft.html

JM

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Jerry Shaw - 11 Apr 2004 16:17 GMT
>> Have you considered a sailboat?
>> You would need two servos to handle the rudder and sails.
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>I'm thinking of carving a block of foam and using a small motor and a 2 ch.
>I was hoping to find something off the shelf cheap or used.

Tom,

I think a hunk of foam would be the cheapest way of going. You could also make
it in the shape you wanted. I would think a flat bottom with rounded sides
would be the best, so it won't get caught in weeds. You may want to make some
sort of metal wire cage around the prop also, so it doesn't get tangled in
weeds either. A hunk of foam about 3 or 4 inches deep will hold a lot of
weight and still have a shallow draft. You might also be able to hollow out a
small tunnel for the prop and rudder to allow the hull to bottom out without
the prop hitting the bottom. Be creative.

You should be able to get a propeller, shaft, motor and tubing at most hobby
stores. Alternatively, you may be able to get a metal rod and some tubing at a
hardware store at a lot less, and just the prop from the hobby store.

As another alternative, since you don't need speed, go to a discount toy store
and buy a toy non-RC boat with the motor and prop installed. You could take
the motor, shaft and prop out and use them that way. Or, you could even
consider cutting a slot in the foam and gluing the boat into the slot, so you
have a "barge." You could do this with a cheap toy RC boat too, so the extra
foam would act as the extra buoyancy you need to carry your line. But you
might want to check the range on any RC boat you use, as it might not be too
far. In any case, you could probably replace it with your own radio, with just
a forward, stop, reverse switch controlled by one of the servos.

Go to a toy store first and look around. See what you can make from the toy
boats they have there. You'll save a lot of money in the long run. And, they
almost all run on standard batteries, so you can always find replacements. And
if you want to go with rechargeables, there are good standard sets of
rechargeables with an AC/car charger for under $30.

Jerry
ARLINBENZ - 12 Apr 2008 03:27 GMT
You asked a question that I've been interested in knowing about too
Here's the perfect thing to use  'CLICK HERE
(http://www.rcfishingworld.com/)  its The "RC FISHING POLE" it fits o
any RC Boat. Make sure and let us know how you do. :cool

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ARLINBEN
tsunami - 11 Apr 2004 18:01 GMT
use an old troling moter and built a basic hull with ply wood, it us
normal baterys slow tons of torqe and if you look in the right place
an old trolling moter is waiting at a garage sale. wings in thing
hobbies has a boat that  you could use for an example(sorry i dont hav
the link

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tsunam
Dr. Spiff - 11 Apr 2004 20:42 GMT
Here is a pass at a Taguchi Boat:

Get one or more pieces of Styrofoam 16" x 30" and using poly urethane
glue assemble a 4" to 6" thick plank. This is the hull and battery
compartment. Hollow out the footprint for a 6 or 12 volt lawnmower
battery dead center of the plank. It only needs to be a couple of
inches deep to keep the battery from sliding around.

Get any 6 to 12 volt electric motor for motive power. Using 1/8"
Plexiglas construct a motor mount. The easiest is a cradle to support
the circumference of the motor. Then glue the motor in place in the
motor mount. With the battery in the hull, float it to see where the
waterline will be. My guess is that the draft will be less than 1".

Carve a tunnel on the centerline, from just aft of the battery to the
stern, so that the tunnel is completely flooded. The motor mount will
be glued to the Styrofoam just aft of the battery and the prop will
end up 2" ~ 3" forward of the stern. Once you have these 2 points, you
can build the prop shaft and keel. Take some more of the 1/8"
Plexiglas and cut a triangular piece with the long side from the
battery to the stern, the short side from the top of the foam to "as
deep as it needs to be", but at least to the bottom of the foam. The
hypotenuse will be line of the prop shaft.

This skeg will provide support for the prop shaft, a little bit of
keel, and a place to hang the rudder. Slit the foam vertically along
the centerline and insert the Plexiglas skeg. Don't glue it until you
have created a prop shaft and rudder.

For the prop, make or get a "mild" prop. Something about 1" to 2"
diameter is sufficient. Steal one from a toy boat if that is all you
can find. The prop shaft should be sized to fit what ever prop you
find. For the prop shaft, use a piece of K&B Brass Tubing 12" long
from Hobby Lobby or wherever. The prop shaft only needs to be
supported in 2 places, at the prop and the motor. Make and attach 2
bearings to the skeg. These bearings can be Plexiglas, brass tubing,
or whatever. The coupling between the motor and the prop shaft will be
a piece of flexible tubing. Places to check are places that sell
aquariums, some of them have flexible air supply tubing; or try model
airplane gas line. You only need 2" or 3" of the stuff.

Since you already made the prop shaft bearings out of something, make
another set that will attach to the stern-end of the skeg. Fashion a
rudder out of the same 1/8" Plexiglas and hang it on the end on the
skeg. The mounting of the rudder servo and control arm should be
straight forward.

One or more of these ideas ought to get you started.

Regards,

Rick

>It's getting to be spring and young men's thoughts turn to....FISHING!!!
>Every year a bunch of us go to Canada and stalk the 50" Great Northern Pike.
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>Want to sell me an old RC
>boat?
Tom Gardner - 12 Apr 2004 00:25 GMT
I can "see" it.  Thanks for the eloquent idea that's not going to chew-up
much time or cash.  So, will it get laughs...or fish?

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> Here is a pass at a Taguchi Boat:
>
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> >Want to sell me an old RC
> >boat?
John Doe - 10 May 2004 08:45 GMT
I beleive thats illegal up here. Get caught and you'll lose more than your
boat.You'll lose your Car, Boat, Tackle, License AND get a HUGE fine!! A
Game Warden HAS the power to do that!
People DONT realize that a Game Warden has MORE power in alot of areas than
Policemen do!!
BTW, I've got a Dumas Mr Darby 47" Tug that would pull a 50" Pike in with NO
problem. LOL!!

Scott
> I can "see" it.  Thanks for the eloquent idea that's not going to chew-up
> much time or cash.  So, will it get laughs...or fish?
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> > >Want to sell me an old RC
> > >boat?
 
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