Hi,
I'm looking for lead to cast an 8lb keel for my model boat. Where could
I get this and what is a preferred way to melt it?
Thanks
Max
John Mianowski - 30 Jul 2003 04:29 GMT
Ask a tire shop for used wheel weights.
JM
>Hi,
>I'm looking for lead to cast an 8lb keel for my model boat. Where could
>I get this and what is a preferred way to melt it?
>Thanks
>Max
Towboat Joe - 30 Jul 2003 12:44 GMT
Contact some old plumbers. We used to have to run cast iron pipe and
to join it we had to calk it and then run molten lead into the joints.
There should be a few old lead pots out there still full of lead. You
may be able to buy the pot and tank burner or he may melt the lead for
you. The burner screws on top of a propane tank and there's a holder
for the pot. You also need a ladel for dipping and pouring the lead,
believe me you won't want to even think about touching the pot. It'll
glow red from the heat.
If no luck try plumbing supply stores. They may be able to get the
lead for you. It usually comes in 5 pound bars joined five bars
together.
Rod Geraghty - 30 Jul 2003 08:57 GMT
Sporting goods shops for rolls of fishing sinker lead.
Melting is best accomplished with the lead in a ladle and propane torch.
> Hi,
> I'm looking for lead to cast an 8lb keel for my model boat. Where could
> I get this and what is a preferred way to melt it?
> Thanks
> Max
R.J.O. - 30 Jul 2003 14:08 GMT
Got mine from a shooting range, the place had lots and lots of air gun
pellets on the floor under the target area. it was shovelled up and given
freely. I didn't need to melt it down as the stuff is so fine anyway and
just filled the keel, sealed it over with araldite so it doesn't move about.
RJO
> Sporting goods shops for rolls of fishing sinker lead.
> Melting is best accomplished with the lead in a ladle and propane torch.
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> > Thanks
> > Max
AB - 30 Jul 2003 18:46 GMT
Try builders merchants who supply lead flashing to go round windows, or
roofs.
> Hi,
> I'm looking for lead to cast an 8lb keel for my model boat. Where could
> I get this and what is a preferred way to melt it?
> Thanks
> Max
Paul Davenport - 30 Jul 2003 22:08 GMT
Best one from me is roofers, who use lead flashing. Good thing about this is
that the lead is relatively pure and comes in quantity, very often just
thrown away/stored at the end of a job.
Be bloody careful if you are melting this down. If you get it wrong you'll
be in deep trouble. There are a few articles on this on the web...do the
obvious google search.
Paul
> Try builders merchants who supply lead flashing to go round windows, or
> roofs.
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> > Thanks
> > Max
Fly Higher - 30 Jul 2003 23:36 GMT
Check out the black powder muzzel loading crowd of shooters for articles on
melting lead too. They routinely mold their own bullets from the stuff. I
seem to recall something about getting it too hot and it bubbles somewhat
explosively.
F.H.
> Best one from me is roofers, who use lead flashing. Good thing about this is
> that the lead is relatively pure and comes in quantity, very often just
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> > > Thanks
> > > Max
Umi_Ryuzuki - 31 Jul 2003 17:57 GMT
I go to a local scrap metal yard.
They sell everything by the pound.
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Fly Higher - 30 Jul 2003 23:33 GMT
Here's my personal preference:
http://www14.inetba.com/tandtreloading/productCat17904.ctlg
Lead shot from a gun dealer. 25 pound bag for a good price. Use number 8
or 9 and mix with epoxy. Putting 16 pounds worth in a Six Metre right now.
Don't know how easily it might melt down but I'm sure it can be.
F.H.
> Hi,
> I'm looking for lead to cast an 8lb keel for my model boat. Where could
> I get this and what is a preferred way to melt it?
> Thanks
> Max
spamnut@tca.net - 31 Jul 2003 20:45 GMT
Howdy! If you are absolutely, positively, beyond a doubt, going to
melt lead and pour your own keel, all of these suggestions for sources
will get you started. You could also talk to/look for scuba divers. At
one time they used lead weights on weight belts to trim their
bouyancy.
While pouring lead sounds exciting and "manly", there are several
better alternatives. I needed an 8# keel on my shark, and used a piece
of 2" thin-wall PVC for the body and galvanized fence post caps for
the ends. I epoxied one end on, filled the chamber with #8 lead shot,
then mixed up epoxy and lead shot for a plug. Then I epoxied the other
end cap onto the body. Before I did all the pouring of lead shot, I
had all my keel hanger hardware in place inside the PVC body.
If you are going to pour your keel, here are some things to consider:
1. DRY, everything MUST be DRY!
While molten lead isn't very hot, it is hot enough to flash water into
steam. Steam can burn you, but the real problem is that water flashing
into steam will propel molten lead out of your melting pot of mold.
And this really will burn you, or your clothes, or ...
2. Your mold only has to stand up to one pour, so it can be made out
of almost anything including wood, or plaster of Paris. BUT, see item
number 1.
3. Do this is a reasonably well ventilated area. The problem I have
had in the past is not the lead fumes. Rather it is the smoke given
off by all the other things that burn in the process like dust and
dirt on the lead or the melting pot, etc.
4. DO NOT leave your melting process until your lead is in the same
state in which it started, COLD. If you wander away "for just a few
moments" your lead keel could end up costing you tens of thousands of
dollars, or more. Trust me on this one.
I've poured several hundred pounds of lead in the past 40 years, and
believe me, there are easier ways to get your lead keel than by
pouring molten metal.
Now go do what you are going to do anyway. <G>
Regards,
Dr. Spiff
>Hi,
>I'm looking for lead to cast an 8lb keel for my model boat. Where could
>I get this and what is a preferred way to melt it?
>Thanks
>Max
Stagis Family - 02 Aug 2003 01:01 GMT
Sporting goods shops rule. I think a 25-lb sack of shot is like $16.
There's some math involved, but they carry, usually, no. 8 and no. 9 shot,
which is supposed to be same mass. Tell 'em it's for a model boat - it'll
start a conversation, fersure.
> Hi,
> I'm looking for lead to cast an 8lb keel for my model boat. Where could
> I get this and what is a preferred way to melt it?
> Thanks
> Max
Stagis Family - 02 Aug 2003 01:03 GMT
While we're on the subject, I've heard that wheel weights for autos aren't
pure lead. It's supposedly alloyed with something to keep it 'strong'.
Maybe weigh it.
This from a guy who 'inherited' a huge box of wheel weights when he bought
his house 16 years ago - me.
> Hi,
> I'm looking for lead to cast an 8lb keel for my model boat. Where could
> I get this and what is a preferred way to melt it?
> Thanks
> Max
Voigt Lander - 14 Aug 2003 13:00 GMT
Profeesioal Pumbing supplies stores carry lead, the real pumbing
wholesale/retail ones, not the plumbing dept of a retail store, they
usually have it in links of 3 or 4 ingots of about 5-10lb? per
ingot....or try your local dive shop, they have it or know where to
get it.
You should also be able to find a place that'll poor it for you, again
perhaps the dive shop, or a metal works place...
~Voigt
> While we're on the subject, I've heard that wheel weights for autos aren't
> pure lead. It's supposedly alloyed with something to keep it 'strong'.
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> > Thanks
> > Max
burntkat IS AT comcast.net - 02 Sep 2003 04:06 GMT
Tire store. Look in the parking lot, usually.
Get a outdoors camp stove, a tin can, and have at it.
> Hi,
> I'm looking for lead to cast an 8lb keel for my model boat. Where could
> I get this and what is a preferred way to melt it?
> Thanks
> Max