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JustAGuy - 18 Jul 2005 04:02 GMT
Hi,

This post is an inquiry to see what kinds of gadgets the rc modeling
community might find interesting or beneficial.

A couple of friends and I are engineers tired of working for someone
else and are evaluating whether creating items for this hobby might
be a good area for us to venture into. I doubt we'll spend any energy
on battery technologies as we aren't really equipped for that.

What would interest you if it were available?
Flight dataloggers?
Real-time telemetry (engine temp, rpm, altitude, fuel guage)?
Video transmission?
Frequency scanner to see if anyone is using your channel?

Suggestions?

Thanks,
JustAGuy
BlackSheep - 18 Jul 2005 09:52 GMT
A remote fuel gauge would be a very handy thing! a proper video transmission
system designed just for the hobby, long range, high quality vibration free
pictures, now that would get me interested 8o)

Best of luck
Scotty - 18 Jul 2005 09:58 GMT
>A remote fuel gauge would be a very handy thing! a proper video
>transmission system designed just for the hobby, long range, high quality
>vibration free pictures, now that would get me interested 8o)
>
> Best of luck

I'm new to the hobby so I don't know if this exists yet but I would like to
see an all wheel steering upgrade.
david - 18 Jul 2005 10:30 GMT
but I would like to
> see an all wheel steering upgrade.

All wheel steering on a plane?

I'd like to see Txs modified so that they cannot transmitt if they detect
another transmission on the same freq.  Such systems are in use on PMR
handhelds so the technology is quite routine. We should have it.

Also of course, crystal-less tx and rx should be mandatory, not optional.
Synthsisers with a true freq display are far better than ageing, loosening
crystals.

In terms of fancy stuff, I would like an ASI signal sent to me sometimes,
though again, this ought to be mandatory for some large models (as well as
very useful of course!).

I'd love to have VP props as well!

Oh, and on-board engine starting!

D
Scotty - 18 Jul 2005 10:52 GMT
> but I would like to
>> see an all wheel steering upgrade.
>
> All wheel steering on a plane?

This thread is crossposted to rec.models.rc.land as well as air.

> I'd like to see Txs modified so that they cannot transmitt if they detect
> another transmission on the same freq.  Such systems are in use on PMR
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>
> D
Tim Auton - 18 Jul 2005 12:56 GMT
>but I would like to
>> see an all wheel steering upgrade.
>
>All wheel steering on a plane?

That's what I thought, till I realised this went to about a gazillion
different groups.

I think an all-wheel steering upgrade would be a mechanical thing and
these guys sound like electronics types. Anyway, can't you just chop
two cars in half and stick the front ends together? Instant 4x4x4,
just add glue!

Tim
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Anders Wallin - 19 Jul 2005 18:27 GMT
> All wheel steering on a plane?
>
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> Synthsisers with a true freq display are far better than ageing, loosening
> crystals.

www.spektrumrc.com
uses WLAN technology on 2.4GHz to do just that.
Beav - 23 Jul 2005 23:27 GMT
> but I would like to
>> see an all wheel steering upgrade.
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> another transmission on the same freq.  Such systems are in use on PMR
> handhelds so the technology is quite routine. We should have it.

We have it. Futaba from Japan and (puke, but still) the "Merlin" range of
radio's built in England, but personally I wouldn't use one to prop a door
open.

> Also of course, crystal-less tx and rx should be mandatory, not optional.
> Synthsisers with a true freq display are far better than ageing, loosening
> crystals.

Futaba again.

> In terms of fancy stuff, I would like an ASI signal sent to me sometimes,
> though again, this ought to be mandatory for some large models (as well as
> very useful of course!).
>
> I'd love to have VP props as well!

Already available and in carbon fibre too. I'll bet you could find all of
this stuff using that wonderful tool called Google too.

> Oh, and on-board engine starting!

And that. Mind you, that's only been available since about 1976, so it's
possible it slipped in under your radar (that's a thing too, radar:) Hirobo
brought out one of the first and I think they still offer it.

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Dave - 26 Jul 2005 11:33 GMT
Hi Beav,
you venturing into the world of planks?
Regards Dave :^)
p.s. my mental MDS in the scuttle (no longer pink from printer ink) is still
producing loads of grunt!
Chris Eilbeck - 19 Jul 2005 22:39 GMT
> a proper video transmission system designed just for the hobby, long
> range, high quality vibration free pictures, now that would get me
> interested 8o)

Have you seen http://www.boostervision.com/ ?

Chris
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John Mianowski - 20 Jul 2005 01:27 GMT
>> a proper video transmission system designed just for the hobby, long
>> range, high quality vibration free pictures, now that would get me
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>
>Chris

Looks almost identical to something I bought from MicroMark for about
$75.

JM
The Caretaker - 18 Jul 2005 10:14 GMT
> Hi,
>
[quoted text clipped - 11 lines]
> Video transmission?
> Frequency scanner to see if anyone is using your channel?

Frequency scanner, with the ability to go from 35 to 27 to 40 etc etc
and see each crystal separately and it's interaction with a datum so you
can see if, for instance, the crystal is shifted from where it should be
and possibly interfering with anyone else's signal.  Should also give a
good indication of the transmitter strength etc.

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Richard - 18 Jul 2005 10:55 GMT
> Frequency scanner, with the ability to go from 35 to 27 to 40 etc etc and
> see each crystal separately and it's interaction with a datum so you can
> see if, for instance, the crystal is shifted from where it should be and
> possibly interfering with anyone else's signal.  Should also give a good
> indication of the transmitter strength etc.

Already been done and has been readily available on the market for many,
many years.  With one of these you should also be able to see if someone has
left their receiver activated.  Not specifically designed for RC equipment
but checkout www.optoelectronics.com

Cheers
Richard
The Caretaker - 18 Jul 2005 12:02 GMT
>>Frequency scanner, with the ability to go from 35 to 27 to 40 etc etc and
>>see each crystal separately and it's interaction with a datum so you can
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> left their receiver activated.  Not specifically designed for RC equipment
> but checkout www.optoelectronics.com

I know, we use one in the BRCA Nationals, but the model isn't available
any more, and the one you point our doesn't have the graphing facilities
and 'extras' that our old unit has.

... and it's 'merkin'.

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Mark Hobley - 18 Jul 2005 14:08 GMT
> What would interest you if it were available?

A "dead stick" sounder that emits a loud alarm as soon as the engine cuts
(possibly through a drop in pressure in the exhaust to fuel tank pipe).

This would help to gain a few extra seconds before the plane starts to fall.

A low powered lost model alarm.

When the transmitter is switched off, an extremely loud alarm emits a noise.
I know that these exist already, but I propose a modification to make the
alarm sound just a short beep once every thirty seconds to save battery life.
This would help if the aircraft has crashed in a forest and its going to take
a long time to find it. Additional beeps could be emitted by a switch on the
controller perhaps.

Signal Encryption / Decryption so that only your own transmitter can control
your plane.

Hop to an unused channel, if interference is detected or someone switches on a
controller on the same frequency as one in use.

Two way communications between aircraft and controller. (For an
instrument landing system).

Lost aircraft locator (similar to wildlife trackers currently available, but
on a cheaper budget). A hand held device can be swung around and makes a noise
when pointed in the direction of the aircraft.

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Mark Hobley - 18 Jul 2005 16:08 GMT
You could build a cheaper version of something that already exists.

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Mark Hobley - 19 Jul 2005 11:08 GMT
What about an air to air paint balling kit ?

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James Moir - 01 Sep 2005 14:45 GMT
Rather than "cheaper", I prefer the word "better"!

James Moir

> You could build a cheaper version of something that already exists.
david - 18 Jul 2005 17:19 GMT
LOL

> Two way communications between aircraft and controller. (For an
> instrument landing system).

Makes a whole new meaning out of flying in fog eh?!!
Chris Eilbeck - 19 Jul 2005 22:36 GMT
> A low powered lost model alarm.

**snip**

> Lost aircraft locator (similar to wildlife trackers currently
> available, but on a cheaper budget). A hand held device can be swung
> around and makes a noise when pointed in the direction of the
> aircraft.

These work very well and are reasonably priced.  Of course, you need a
receiver such as a Yupiteru MVt-1700 scanner and a directional antenna
but you can pick those up for not a huge amount of cash too, Ebay and
Sandpiper Aerials for instance.

Chris
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James Moir - 01 Sep 2005 14:51 GMT
Make that waterproof to help locate lost subs and sunken boats !!

James Moir

> > A low powered lost model alarm.
>
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>
> Chris
Dr. Adrian Wrigley - 18 Jul 2005 14:08 GMT
...
> What would interest you if it were available?
> Flight dataloggers?
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>
> Suggestions?

A decent variometer/rate of clime indication
An Air Speed Indicator (and slip too?)
A thermal hunter
A GPS coordinate transmitter (preferably with orientation data too)
An anti-stall device(linked to the ASI?)
User-configurable (on-board) flight computer (all above sensors plus
servo drivers for semi-autonomous and autonomous flight etc.)

Just a few ideas.  Try the simplest first!
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david - 18 Jul 2005 17:23 GMT
Heres a serious one for ya.

With the advent of good electric flight we are seeing more and more bigger
and bigger models flying on sparks. Nowt wrong wi that of course, until you
get a nice 70 inch Spitfire or Mustang riding on electrons - it just doesnt
SOUND right.

Now, the electric tank boys have sound generators that are really GOOD. How
about a sound generator that emulates a Merlin engine? Or even one that does
a jet? A flat four lycoming? FOUR Merlins for a leccy Lanc?etc etc

I dont really want an ASI (but the big guys might), and I certainly dont
want telemetry, anti stall, self-centering positronic monoflobulation etc
etc. But a loud sound generator...yes please!  I would buy one of those.

David
> Hi,
>
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> Thanks,
> JustAGuy
Tim Auton - 24 Jul 2005 00:11 GMT
>This post is an inquiry to see what kinds of gadgets the rc modeling
>community might find interesting or beneficial.

Computer radios can cost a bloody fortune. But the major difference
between a £1000 computer radio and a £40 basic one is the computer
(the RF stuff will be better too - but is it really hundreds of pounds
worth?). Futaba seem to get away with charging £1000 for what amounts
to a £40 radio and a £100 PDA in the same box with a bit of custom
software. How about a transmitter with the programming aspects
offloaded to a PDA or laptop? You could get away with modest hardware
and a modest CPU (to do the mixing - a $2 uC would do) and a minimal
display or even no display at all, yet have superior programmability
compared to even the most expensive transmitters out there.

Tim
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Bob - 10 Aug 2005 01:10 GMT
> Hi,
>
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>
> Suggestions?

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