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Re: Train Room
| Carl Heinz | 15 Jul 2009 16:10 |
>>>> I'd worry more about people seeing in and theft than lighting for >>>> night ops. Not too mention the heat gain from all that glass - it's [quoted text clipped - 24 lines] >cheers, >wolf My Train Room is a converted 18 x 30' greenhouse. I'm pretty sure an earlier description mentioned that the roof was replaced by commercial screen room ceiling panels which consists of an outer and inner aluminum layer with approx 3" of styrofoam as a sandwich. Most of the side walls have been covered with 4 x 8 corrugated plastic sheets to provide a surface for backdrops. Fiberglass insulation was placed between the fiberglass side walls and the plastic sheets. The floor is now a 4" concrete slab over the previous layer of approx 8" of crushed rock from greenhouse days. Although this tends to help maintain a more comfortable temperature during spring and early summer, the heat accumulation tends to retard night cooling. When it gets to the mid 60's outside, it's still the low 70's in the Train Room. I did retain a fairly large exhaust fan from greenhouse days that kicks in automatically when the inside temperature reaches the mid 80's. This helps keep the inside temperature down around 10 degrees when I'm not out there and prevents the inside temperature from reaching over the mid 90's.
A large evaporative cooler served well when it was a greenhouse since I had the need to maintain humidity at least at 80% (phaelonopsis orchids). This was replaced by a large 110 window air conditioner since the high humidity was not something in which I wanted to keep my trains. I've supplemented this with a protable air conditioner, ceiling fans and column fans which I run when I'm out there.
So I've had to find some non-standard solutions to a non-standard construction.
The suggestions for the original poster who has a more "standard" structure should serve him well.
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| Wolf K | 15 Jul 2009 10:24 |
>>> I'd worry more about people seeing in and theft than lighting for >>> night ops. Not too mention the heat gain from all that glass - it's [quoted text clipped - 19 lines] > months. > Mike M And I trust you've used triple glazing and loads of insulation in the walls.
cheers, wolf
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| mike mueller | 15 Jul 2009 02:35 |
>> I'd worry more about people seeing in and theft than lighting for night >> ops. Not too mention the heat gain from all that glass - it's an easy [quoted text clipped - 9 lines] > for the house so I've used a large 110 unit and a separate portable plus > column and ceiling fans. Still gets into the 90's--but it's a dry heat. :>) Carl Call an experienced Glass Person. They make a UV film that will reflect at least 50% of the heat. It's a commercial product and will pay for it self with the off set of cooling costs. That will help cut down room temps by 20 degrees. It will also help retain heat during the winter months. Mike M
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| Carl Heinz | 15 Jul 2009 00:21 |
>I'd worry more about people seeing in and theft than lighting for night >ops. Not too mention the heat gain from all that glass - it's an easy >bet you've got at least one wall that gets the full force of the sun. At >least one thing on your layout would be prototypical - sun kinks in your >trackwork! >Hope you got a monster a/c unit for your space. The burglar alarm for our Train Room is linked to the one for the house.
Air conditioning is a real problem with our setup. I didn't want to devote a 220 line for the purpose because that would have required upgrading the box for the house so I've used a large 110 unit and a separate portable plus column and ceiling fans. Still gets into the 90's--but it's a dry heat. :>)
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| Jack | 14 Jul 2009 21:47 |
> On 6/12/2009 9:49 PM NICHE541 spake thus: > [quoted text clipped - 10 lines] > > I think this is what they call a "gloat". I'd worry more about people seeing in and theft than lighting for night ops. Not too mention the heat gain from all that glass - it's an easy bet you've got at least one wall that gets the full force of the sun. At least one thing on your layout would be prototypical - sun kinks in your trackwork! Hope you got a monster a/c unit for your space.
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| David Nebenzahl | 13 Jun 2009 06:02 |
On 6/12/2009 9:49 PM NICHE541 spake thus:
> The contractors just poured the concrete for my new "train room" > connected to my house. My imagination is now going wild with the new [quoted text clipped - 4 lines] > on the kind of light to use?s > John in the Indian Nations May you rot in hell (just kidding).
I think this is what they call a "gloat".
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| NICHE541 | 13 Jun 2009 04:49 |
The contractors just poured the concrete for my new "train room" connected to my house. My imagination is now going wild with the new possibilities of layout design. It has been a long time coming. The lighting will be natural light. The room when finished will have glass on three sides so will have plenty of illumination during the day. I haven't decided what I will do for lighting at night. Any suggestions on the kind of light to use?s John in the Indian Nations
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